Politics Thread

[Geronimo]

Gee... The people voted and Biden Won. FACT.
There was no massive fraud as Trump and Company continue to rant about.
There is not a shred of evidence of any massive voter fraud.

But I'm sure you will continue to mumble about deep state this and that...
Trump LOST.

I do find it curious that hardly anybody says "there was no massive fraud. FACT" in both 2016 and in 2020. People only seem to take absence of massive fraud as FACT when the candidate they most oppose was the loser.

There was no evidence of massive fraud in 2016 or 2020 but there's no justification in either year for characterizing the absence of fraud as FACT or characterizing accusations of massive fraud as FALSE or especially as LIES

[-Jrabbit]

From Jon Stewart on X:

“OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!”

[-Jrabbit]

Not comparable. Stewart's was the one-time private sale of an apartment; pretty sure the capitalists will confirm that Jon can -- and should -- sell his home for the highest price that the market will bear. OTOH, Trump's court case is about his company's business model being based on routinely misrepresenting the market value of commercial properties, both owned and under development, to gain undeservedly better loan terms and lower taxes.

Fun fact: tax assessment valuations have nothing to do with retail value of a property.

I'm always amused by the timing of these irrelevant "whatabout" stories trying to distract attention away from Trump's latest legal woes.

[Ming]

Gee... The people voted and Biden Won. FACT.
There was no massive fraud as Trump and Company continue to rant about.
There is not a shred of evidence of any massive voter fraud.

But I'm sure you will continue to mumble about deep state this and that...
Trump LOST.

[Geronimo]

I've seen proof the government at numerous levels interfered in the election to help Biden and defeat Trump

That's bad if true but wouldn't change that Biden legitimately won. So what was this "proof"?

[Berzerker]

I've seen proof the government at numerous levels interfered in the election to help Biden and defeat Trump

[Dauphin]

What facts? The 1st sentence begins with the assumption people making loans relied on Trump to decide what his property is worth.

Don't call it an assumption. it was the sworn testimony of a Managing Director at Deutsche Bank. And it's not just the property valuations, but all the financial statements that were subject to fraud.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24432595-trump-civil-trial-decision

See Page 9.

[Geronimo]

I've seen the proof, the FBI and various govt agencies censored political opponents and the FBI, CIA and former Intel people covered up for Biden when Hunter's laptop became a liability

You've seen the "proof" the election winner should have been trump or just proof that some election fraud was found?

[Berzerker]

I've seen the proof, the FBI and various govt agencies censored political opponents and the FBI, CIA and former Intel people covered up for Biden when Hunter's laptop became a liability

[Berzerker]

McDaniel may have grounds to sue, her talent agency dropped her on top of being badmouthed out of the NBC job

[Ming]

I don't personally care for either of them...
And, do you still believe the election was stolen? Even after NO PROOF has been found, all the lawsuits thrown out.
You keep claiming you aren't a Trump supporter, but are more likely to post Maga propaganda and anti Biden conspiracy theories, while defending Trump at every turn.

[Berzerker]

$748k was the amount Stewart paid on property taxes

[Berzerker]

Rachel Maddow of MSNBC said the reason she vetoed hiring Ronna McDaniel is her election denialism

Maddow spent years denying the 2016 election

[Ming]

Gee... Berz is upset because somebody pointed out Trumps legal problems... like the ones he has been convicted of.
I know tons of people that made big profits selling there homes... but I guess in your mind, they are all criminals and Trump is just a good old boy.
But feel free to continue to defend your hero.
He has been convicted of Fraud... FACT

[Berzerker]

Jon Stewart should have kept quiet lol... Did Trump make such a profit like that on properties assessed under a million?

He probably deals in more valuable properties.