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  • #16
    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
    The Russians probably tried to set of a small charge to increase the flow downriver and prevent further harassing from Ukrainian special forces, but they're to incompetent and blew the whole dam up, like the war criminals they are.
    Interesting that the Dambusters are (or were) lauded for decades after the war, but the Russians are called war criminals.

    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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    • Dauphin
      Dauphin commented
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      My contention is that the calls of war crimes for blowing a dam depends on which side you support and why you do it. Pretty sure Western powers would flood a location if it gave clear military advantage. Dambusters is one example. The flooding of the Netherlands another.

    • Dinner
      Dinner commented
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      The Geneva convention was changed after WW2 to make bombing civilians and specifically blowing up dams illegal and a war crimes.

    • Dauphin
      Dauphin commented
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      The convention also has an 'if' after the statement.

  • #17
    Ukraine may have shot a few holes in the floodgate, an article from late '22 said they fired 3 Himars into it to increase the flow of water to impede Russian advances down stream. I'm sure both sides have considered blowing the dam or how to prepare if it was destroyed. That sounds a little suspicious given the risk they were taking but the general said they were successful increasing outflow. I'd hate to be the guy shooting holes in a dam and watch it dissolve.

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    • #18
      Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
      Ukraine may have shot a few holes in the floodgate, an article from late '22 said they fired 3 Himars into it to increase the flow of water to impede Russian advances down stream. I'm sure both sides have considered blowing the dam or how to prepare if it was destroyed. That sounds a little suspicious given the risk they were taking but the general said they were successful increasing outflow. I'd hate to be the guy shooting holes in a dam and watch it dissolve.
      The explosions registered are much much bigger than what could be achieved with a missile.
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      • Berzerker
        Berzerker commented
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        The general wasn't trying to blow up the dam, just punch a few holes in a floodgate to increase the output to deter Russian efforts downstream.

    • #19
      Putin could end his invasion and just move his forces back to Russia's internationally recognized borders. This war started and continues because Putin wants to annex an independent and sovereign country and for no other reason.
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      • Geronimo
        Geronimo commented
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        I've often said that in any serious peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, Ukraine should eventually offer to 'denazify' in exchange for Russian withdrawal. This could consist of removing any reference to Bandera in public spaces and signage. That sort of fig-leaf might painlessly grease the skids on the Russian side.

      • Dinner
        Dinner commented
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        An interesting idea, G.

      • Berzerker
        Berzerker commented
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        Neocons and Nazis run Ukraine

    • #20
      Don't worry, be happy, Serb.
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      • #21
        Originally posted by Dinner View Post
        Don't worry, be happy, Serb.
        TBF, I'd also be angry and upset if I lived in Russia.
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        • #22
          Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

          TBF, I'd also be angry and upset if I lived in Russia.
          If I were a citizen of Russia, I would be, since months, living in foreign territory, out of fear of getting drafted into the military against my will and fighting for a war I am opposed to (and most likely dying in it on some kind of Forlorn Hope mission)
          Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
          Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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          • #23
            Originally posted by Serb View Post
            I know you imbeciles don't learn physics.
            But regardless of that, the laws of physics do still exist.
            And one of such law is the Coriolis force, wich makes the right bank of ANY river in the northern hemisphere stepper than the left one, simply because of rotation of Earth around its axis. The large bodies of water are pushing on the right bank of the river, because they have a mass and a direction, set by the rotation of Earth.
            And that is why the right bank of ANY river is always high, while the left one is low.

            That is fkn LAW!!!

            A law of physics!!!
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            Which side of the river is the right or left bank is entirely dependent on the direction you are looking, not which hemisphere you are in.
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            • #24
              Originally posted by Donegeal View Post

              Which side of the river is the right or left bank is entirely dependent on the direction you are looking, not which hemisphere you are in.
              By convention you normally look downstream to make the assessment of left or right bank.
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #25
                There are quite a few rivers in the northern hemisphere that flow north. "By convention" the right or left bank of those rivers are opposite of what Serb insists is "the right bank of ANY river in the northern hemisphere" and "That is fkn LAW!!! A law of physics!!!". If he's going to try to tell us he's gods gift to physics and we're all "imbeciles", he better be right about what he's referencing; and he wasn't.​
                Last edited by Donegeal; June 13, 2023, 17:04. Reason: Oops.. "...of those rivers ARE opposite..."
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                • #26
                  Direction of travel of the river is irrelevant. All objects will feel a deflection to the right in the northern hemisphere.
                  Last edited by Dauphin; June 13, 2023, 17:21.
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                  • #27
                    Left/right is subjective. Use East/west. More accurate. Actually I believe spinward/anti-spinward are the correct terms.
                    Last edited by Donegeal; June 13, 2023, 17:41. Reason: Added spinward part.
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                    • #28
                      If you are heading north, then right is east. If you are heading south, then right is west. The map direction that the Coriolis Effect manifests is not fixed. It is entirely relative to the object's direction, not the map cardinals.
                      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                      • Donegeal
                        Donegeal commented
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                        Hehehe... what's it called when you edit or post something that negates the subsequent post? Yeah... that.

                    • #29
                      Originally posted by Donegeal View Post

                      Which side of the river is the right or left bank is entirely dependent on the direction you are looking, not which hemisphere you are in.
                      O had heard Russians refer to right and left by how it looks from Moscow. It is an old imperial thing. A better way is to talk about east or west.
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                      • #30
                        What about, say, the Tagus that flows west? Should we also refer to its banks as the East and West banks?
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