greek elections cont'ed

[Bereta_Eder]

because we have not forgotten with the right wing greece collapsed to the 108th place in freedom of press

with the socialists it was in 30th or so

the right wing has a total control of media

greece is becoming orbanized, even the EU says so

so yeah
the socalists are imperative

I will not chance prediciotns because they have made a mockery of me but I do beleive that the right wing will implode from within in the next two years

I also realise that the left wing extreme was a sign of economic tumbulance and it DID save the country in its time of need but now it cannot convince the people

we need a new movement and it will come forth

the right wing does not believe in free education health care or water for that matter

but the overwhelming part of the greek people do, and in the end of the daym this is all that matters and a new vehicle will come forth to express that desire that the right wing can't go for long pretending it shares

[Bereta_Eder]

of course the right wing has strengths

1. made the ecnomy fly 6% per year growth way more than the EU average

2. Anti-immigration or at least pretending to be. when you're on the frontier and you advocate open borders you'll loose. that's why the left wing, as it is now, it will lose, each and every time on that issue

3. educated people. they are educated fcks. good thing is we're more educated and real educated not daddy's money paid for my education abroad because I failed in Greece educated. There will never be private universities like they do not exist anywhere in the civilzied world. You're worthy, you enter. Your dad's money don't matter here, socialism, social mobility equal opportunity. if you want to live your american dream you can only do it in europe

4. not must else. they are good administrators but atre plagued by huge corruption

but the present left wing has a lot of issues too:

1. most of it is deranged. they hard core left overs from the fist ot the knive opposition to the creditors during the crisis.
2. they are pretty dumb. they managed to make the smart ones leave or become inactive


still now that i think about it with a 7 party parliement the right wing can't have rul;ing majority and it has burned so many bridges I don't see who it can work with

hm... we might not be over yet

[Bereta_Eder]

I mean we are over as we are no

even I am not convinced and I'll vote for us

we are dumb

we need to change to a dynamic socialist movement not plagued by ghosts of the past but bold clean dynamic

we can't do it for at least 3 years and even then I donm't see a way now

[Bereta_Eder]

the righ wing has total control of the media. it presents itself as sensible middle of the ground highly skilled administratos yet they have illegally survailed even my grandmother and her cat the little east german stazi bastards and the whole world knows it

and excellence my ass. we are the real excellence. self made.

[Bereta_Eder]

still of course I respect the verdict of the people

it was shocking to the left wing because it couldn;t believe how much it got decimated

and it was shocking tot he right wing because it couldn't believe how triumphant it was

[Bereta_Eder]

give me comntrol of 90% of the media and I too can fart and make you beleive it was the 7th symphony of bethoven

[Bereta_Eder]

we need to reivnent the socialist movement get rid of the stalinmist/deranged/anarchist burdens really f you

we need a coalition of the best. a new party

[Bereta_Eder]

we need highly skilled people of unweavering morality and ethos imbued with real modern day social democratic ideas.
ready to fight with ideas and the essence of their lives not with screams and accusations

but as long as we don't provide that the right wing will rule unhintered and uncontested for years on end

[Bereta_Eder]

and we need the industrial class

enterprise is not our enemy ffs.

when papandreou made Greece into a socailist heaven from one end to the other reconciled the greek society frist time after the civil war made health care free and accessible to all elevated Greece to the standard of a european country put forth all progressive ideas socially and ecnomically,

did he have the industrial class against him?
NO

there is absiolutely no reason to have them against you.

they are a tool an invaluable asset and they will behave if you tell them to behave and have the people behind you.

jesus what kind of stupid people we kept in our ranks

off with them,

[Bereta_Eder]

also we are not him.

he had two phd's

we only have one

we are less than him and there will never be one like him

stop trying to immitate him

[Bereta_Eder]

a new class of people
european social democrats that can counter those neoliberal beasts one on one

[Bereta_Eder]

kick them in the face with the fact that those privileged little jerks want to turn Greece into an american dystopia

and that we are european social democrats

Greeks look up to states like sweden or germany, totally social democratic


bind right wing opportunism with american dystopia

present yourself as the one true european hope

[Bereta_Eder]

which, after all, you are

[Bereta_Eder]

people want justice for them and their children they want to live in an ordely society

right wing has them convinced it can give them that

and as long as we keep thsoe deranged f in our ranks they are f right

[Bereta_Eder]

first we need to duplicate their economic success
they showed no mercy and took no prisoners