Durham's report found DOJ, FBI 'failed to uphold' mission of 'strict fidelity to the law' in Trump-Russia probe

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"Rather than endorse the theory of a global anti-Trump conspiracy, Durham settles into a long bill of grievances against the FBI. The agency’s methods, he argues, were too aggressive; its agents were too ready to believe the worst about Trump. The FBI had only enough information to justify a preliminary investigation, not a full one—a distinction the report carefully parses for some pages. This, in the end, is the gravamen of the Durham report: The FBI overreacted to the available information about Trump’s Russia contacts and should have moved more cautiously before advancing to the next phase of an investigation.

Specialists in the law and practice of counter-intelligence can argue whether Durham has correctly interpreted the appropriate modalities of FBI procedure. Very possibly, Durham is correct. Yet even if he is, isn’t this all kind of underwhelming? Durham’s sponsors hoped to reveal a globe-spanning conspiracy to vilify an innocent Donald Trump. What he delivered for them instead was a list of arguable procedural infractions by the FBI.:"

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/durham-report-fbi-trump-russia/674088/

JM

The Atlantic is the neocon home of David Frum. Durham wasn't given the task of looking at a global anti-Trump conspiracy, just the one involving our government, so thats a straw man. I thought Durham found the FBI didn't have justification for Crossfire Hurricane. They ignored the available information and took the Steele dossier to a fisa court to spy on Trump when Crossfire Hurricane failed to deliver. That list of procedural infractions document their corruption. And Durham found that John Brennan told Obama the effort to smear Trump as a traitor came from the Clinton campaign so Obama is guilty too. Course Obama didn't need John Brennan to tell him that.

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Durham found out the government had intel at the time that on July 26, 2016 Hillary approved a plot from an adviser to fabricate a scandal framing Trump as a traitor. The FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016 lasting to May '17. Imagine that... Guess what else happened on July 26?

"After WikiLeaks released hacked Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails on July 22, the Australian government on July 26 advised American authorities of the encounter between Downer and Papadopoulos. Receipt of this information spurred the FBI's launch of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 31."

Crossfire Hurricane was launched 5 days after Obama had intel Clinton was framing Trump.

That encounter was 3 months earlier, so does that mean the seeds of a 'conspiracy' were already being planted?

Here's Aaron Mate on Jimmy Dore

https://youtu.be/dV-haiGFrV8

Mar 19, 2016 is when John Podesta's emails were hacked. In April Misfud tells Papadopoulos Russia has dirt on Hillary. So was the plot concocted after and in response to the hack and Hillary's permission to roll with it on July 26 made it official for the Aussies and FBI to get involved? Plausible deniability.

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Mate said Durham didn't subpoena the top people involved, nada. Comey, McCabe, Strzok, and a few more didn't even talk to him.

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This Russiagate scam was integral to the war in Ukraine

Durham said the 4 fisa applications were the result of a "well developed conspiracy of cooperation"

Crossfire Hurricane was launched by Andrew McCabe, he was fired for repeatedly lying to the FBI. Wasn't he Comey's deputy or something? I cant imagine McCabe would have sent the Steele dossier to a fisa court without the Boss man's approval. Comey and Obama both had to know and approve even though they knew this was all a scam by the Clinton campaign to frame Trump. Quite a den of thieves... Why of course they rigged the 2020 election, the security state hated Trump so they interfered again.

I dont see how this problem can be fixed. What could Trump do, fire a bunch of people? This is institutional, these agencies and bureaucracies have grown and evolved fighting the cold war. They're addicted... sociopaths. When asked if a half million dead Iraqi children were worth the sanctions Madeleine Albright said yes. Okay, I didn't expect her to say no. Massive quake kills Syrians and ~414-2 in the House votes for sanctions. No wonder China is stealing our friends, we're an obnoxious arrogant bully.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

ok, bottom line is - every liberal calls out trump - everything he says is a lie. and here we are... years later knowing everything dems/libs say is a lie. adam. hillary. maxine... and we all knew it from the start. see how sad/funny this is.

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tds is a thing, hate leads to irrationality

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Aaron Mate made an interesting point. Apparently Durham omitted mention of Crowdstrike from the report, that was the outfit the DNC hired to investigate their servers. It was Crowdstrike's determination Russia hacked the emails, but under oath before Congress the CEO of Crowdstrike admitted they didn't have evidence Russia was guilty. It was the alleged hacking that got the ball rolling for Russiagate, but Durham didn't go there. Mate thinks he was intimidated, there is at least one bipartisan aspect of Russiagate, both parties wanted to demonize Russia in preparation for the war. He couldn't release a report exonerating Russia.

[Geronimo]

Aaron Mate made an interesting point. Apparently Durham omitted mention of Crowdstrike from the report, that was the outfit the DNC hired to investigate their servers. It was Crowdstrike's determination Russia hacked the emails, but under oath before Congress the CEO of Crowdstrike admitted they didn't have evidence Russia was guilty. It was the alleged hacking that got the ball rolling for Russiagate, but Durham didn't go there. Mate thinks he was intimidated, there is at least one bipartisan aspect of Russiagate, both parties wanted to demonize Russia in preparation for the war. He couldn't release a report exonerating Russia.

Berz, the two parties literally go out of their way to not agree on anything. Are you claiming they conspired with each other to frame Russia so the public would accept the US financing Ukraine so that they could weaken Russia by 'bleeding' it?

[Geronimo]

ok, bottom line is - every liberal calls out trump - everything he says is a lie. and here we are... years later knowing everything dems/libs say is a lie. adam. hillary. maxine... and we all knew it from the start. see how sad/funny this is.

that is hyperbole. The two parties instead lie about everything they think would help them have power which is untrue and which they think cannot easily be revealed in an embarrassing manner by their opponents to be untrue.

They always tell the truth when they think it will help them keep power.

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Berz, the two parties literally go out of their way to not agree on anything. Are you claiming they conspired with each other to frame Russia so the public would accept the US financing Ukraine so that they could weaken Russia by 'bleeding' it?

“The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.”

— George Carlin

https://quotefancy.com/george-carlin-quotes

worth the read

They've agreed on just about every major foreign policy decision in my lifetime going back to Vietnam, more recently Biden, Obama, Nuland, Hillary, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and so on shaped the last 2 decades of disaster. They're in control now. Didn't you see video of Democrat and Republican congressmen visiting Ukraine promising more weapons and more war? When Trump delayed a shipment to investigate Biden and Burisma Adam "Impeach him" Schiff said we are fighting Russia over there instead of here, the same argument used to invade Iraq. Has Kevin McCarthy done anything different from Pelosi regarding this war? Trump and much of the base oppose the war, not Wall St Republicans and neocons.

[Geronimo]

George Carlin Quotes are great. I hope they don't serve any basis for your political views or media evaluations.

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If they're great why would you hope for that?

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes has been convicted of sedition and sentenced to 18 years, the prosecution asked for 25 years.

He led an army of federal agents into the capital to prevent certification of the election. No, actually he stood outside and shouted. It was federal agents who entered the capital. Or did they all stand outside with Stewart? Hmm...if it was a crime to trespass and the bulk of convictions and plea deals involve that as opposed to sedition, that means federal agents encouraged and participated in the crime. Isn't that entrapment?

[N35t0r]

Because they are comedy and not axioms?

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bipartisan corruption is 'established, accepted, or self-evidently true'

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https://youtu.be/hPeEODS9Xh8

https://www.realclearinvestigations....ed_903673.html

"Material obtained by Durham’s team shows that the Clinton campaign and its contractor, the cyber-firm CrowdStrike, stonewalled the FBI’s requests for critical data about the alleged Russian hack. Two key Clinton associates who were integral to the Russian hacking claim also appear to have perjured themselves before Congress."

"In April 2016, Sussmann hired CrowdStrike to investigate the alleged hack of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC). In mid-June ‒ just as Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS were producing their first Clinton-funded dossier report alleging a Trump-Russia conspiracy ‒ Clinton-funded CrowdStrike came forward to publicly accuse Russia of hacking the Democrats’ computer networks. Sussmann, who worked closely with the firm, lobbied the FBI to endorse the allegation. The FBI initially declined, but reversed course months later despite failing to examine the DNC/DCCC servers. Instead, much like its use of Steele’s dossier for surveillance warrants and investigative leads when it came to collusion, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike’s forensics and redacted reports."

"The FBI’s dependency on CrowdStrike – and, indeed, the entire basis for the Russiagate probe ‒ was further called into question when it emerged that the firm’s president had admitted under oath that it “did not have concrete evidence” of Russian hacking. Shawn Henry, a former close FBI colleague of Directors Robert Mueller and James Comey, made the disclosure to Congress in December 2017. Yet his testimony was kept secret throughout the entirety of the FBI’s Comey- and Mueller-overseen Russia probes, and only became public in May 2020."

"In failing to address this episode, Durham missed an opportunity to press Sussmann and Henry on why they denied the FBI access to the DNC servers – and whether their false statements to Congress amounted to a criminal offense. By contrast, the Mueller team aggressively prosecuted four Trump associates for alleged false statements, including two cases – Roger Stone and Michael Cohen – for perjury before Congress."

"The FBI’s failure to obtain both direct access to the DNC servers and unredacted copies of the CrowdStrike reports further calls into question U.S. intelligence officials’ claim that Russia hacked the DNC.

On October 7, 2016, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) issued a joint statement claiming, for the first time, that the “U.S. Intelligence Community is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails” from the Democratic Party. Jeh Johnson, who then served as DHS secretary, later testified that President Obama “approved the statement” and “wanted us to make [it].”

Yet as Durham’s Sussmann-FBI emails confirm, this Obama-approved claim was released one week before CrowdStrike denied the FBI’s request for an “onsite” inspection. This timing means that when the intelligence community made its first public attribution of Russian hacking, it had not only failed to inspect the servers, but had not even received CrowdStrike’s copies of them."

"The FBI, the Durham report notes, relied on a “significant quantity of materials ... that originated with and/or were funded by the Clinton campaign or affiliated persons.” Accordingly, Durham concluded, the FBI should have considered whether the Clinton camp was feeding it false claims as “part of a political effort to smear a political opponent” and exploit “the federal government's law enforcement and intelligence agencies in support” of that goal.

For unexplained reasons, Durham did not apply this critique to the FBI’s reliance on Clinton-funded sources to probe the theft of Democratic Party emails. As a result, seven years to the month after CrowdStrike triggered the Russiagate saga, the U.S. public remains in the dark about whether the Russian hacking allegation was yet one more deception funded by the Clinton campaign and parroted by the FBI."

Did Joe McCarthy use the FBI to frame people as traitors? I thought he limited his malfeasance to sloppily (un)supported accusations. He aint got nuttin on Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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Durham testified today, C-SPAN is repeating it tonight twice