Hurt or heal thread. Worst dictators since World War Two

[Egbert]

EPW rules: 2 hurts and 1 heal per day.

- Pol Pot
- Idi Amin
- Jean Bedel Bokassa
- Mao Zedong
- Robert Mugabe
- Saddam Hussein
- Fidel Castro
- Kim Il-sung
- Pierre Nkurunziza
- Teodoro Mbasogo
- Bashar Al-Assad
- Nicolas Maduro
- Augusto Pinochet

I left out Stalin at EPW's suggestion that he was around well before WW2.
I have also left out Apolyton moderators because we all know that they are most despotic, tyrannical and unreasonable dictators. And know nothing of etiquette.
NB I do not necessarily agree that all of the above are bad enough to be in the list and there plenty of other nasty disctators.

Go

[Egbert]

- Pol Pot 10
- Idi Amin 10
- Jean Bedel Bokassa 10
- Mao Zedong 11 +
- Robert Mugabe 10
- Saddam Hussein 10
- Fidel Castro 10
- Kim Il-sung 10
- Pierre Nkurunziza 10
- Teodoro Mbasogo 10
- Bashar Al-Assad 8 --
- Nicolas Maduro 10
- Augusto Pinochet 10

The worst get a heal and the least worst get a hurt. We are looking for the worst dictator to be the last man standing

[Geronimo]

How does scale of their crimes figure into it? If one dictator clearly had a more despicable pattern of rule but only impacted a couple million for a short time would they be worse than a dictator who was considerably less depraved but whose crimes had hundreds of millions of victims over a much larger period of time?

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Castro don't much belong on the list. For a revolutionary who won, he did well above average in cutting way back on the murder once in power. And as poor a read as I have on the oppression stuff, and that fish don't know the water is wet, the Cubans don't seem to think they're oppressed...

Neither Papa nor Baby on the list? Only one of the Sungs?

[Dinner]

Castro has been utterly terrible. Impoverishment and prison camps along with mass murder of political prisoners and homosexuals is all he ever offered.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

I didn't say he was a good guy. Just not the monster most of these are. Arguably better than Batista.

[PLATO]

You guys had your chance to nominate. Horse gone...don't worry about the barn door now.

[PLATO]

11- Pol Pot +
10- Idi Amin
10- Jean Bedel Bokassa
11- Mao Zedong
10- Robert Mugabe
10- Saddam Hussein
9- Fidel Castro -
10- Kim Il-sung
10- Pierre Nkurunziza
10- Teodoro Mbasogo
8- Bashar Al-Assad
9- Nicolas Maduro -
10- Augusto Pinochet

[Jon Miller]

12- Pol Pot +
10- Idi Amin
10- Jean Bedel Bokassa
11- Mao Zedong
10- Robert Mugabe
9- Saddam Hussein -
8- Fidel Castro -
10- Kim Il-sung
10- Pierre Nkurunziza
10- Teodoro Mbasogo
8- Bashar Al-Assad
9- Nicolas Maduro
10- Augusto Pinochet

JM

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

I don't know enough about half these guys to feel qualified to participate -- but Pol Pot does win hands-down for % of the available population murdered unless I'm missing something.

Did Idi Amin really eat anyone?

[My Wife Hates CIV]

"I don't know enough about half these guys to feel qualified to participate " kinda like your moderator skills???

[My Wife Hates CIV]

12- Pol Pot
10- Idi Amin
10- Jean Bedel Bokassa
11- Mao Zedong
10- Robert Mugabe
9- Saddam Hussein
8- Fidel Castro
10- Kim Il-sung +
10- Pierre Nkurunziza
10- Teodoro Mbasogo
8- Bashar Al-Assad
9- Nicolas Maduro
10- Augusto Pinochet

i dont have a -. i just like kim wong dong. does my vote count?

[EPW]

Actually no, it shouldn't. The original version of this game on Apolyton gave each player one positive and negative vote each and games would go on for a LONG time. Subsequent games used the plus one, minus two method to great success. Obviously just adding votes is completely unteneble. I suggest that you subtract two votes from Fidel Castro since you seem to be a fan of his cigars.

[EPW]

12- Pol Pot
10- Idi Amin
10- Jean Bedel Bokassa
12- Mao Zedong +
10- Robert Mugabe
9- Saddam Hussein
8- Fidel Castro
9- Kim Il-sung
10- Pierre Nkurunziza
10- Teodoro Mbasogo
8- Bashar Al-Assad
7- Nicolas Maduro --
10- Augusto Pinochet

This list is very arbitrary but lets go with it.

EDIT removed mwhc invalid vote. I hope this is okay Egbert, I know you're in charge here.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

That's actually a sufficient answer to my quibbles, EPW.

Carry on.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

is this better?

12- Pol Pot
10- Idi Amin
10- Jean Bedel Bokassa
11- Mao Zedong --
10- Robert Mugabe
9- Saddam Hussein
8- Fidel Castro
10- Kim Il-sung +
10- Pierre Nkurunziza
10- Teodoro Mbasogo
8- Bashar Al-Assad
7- Nicolas Maduro --
10- Augusto Pinochet