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  • #16
    Trump v DeSantis and Trump will win unless 1) Ukraine War ends soon, or 2) DeSantis opposes the war

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    • #17
      Pompeo is a neocon, he'd be a distant 3rd

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      • #18
        Dunno - I don't think anyone was ever attracted to the Pig because they wanted a repulsive elderly man-child for a leader. He totally told them what they wanted to hear, and people are usually stupid suckers, alas.

        What little I know about DeSantis, I loathe --- but I would hope people would prefer hearing all the same evil bullcrap from a grownup, which I gather he is. I always said -and I can link you from 2015 or so- that even if you sadly agreed with Pig about everything, he's. not. the. right. guy.
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        • #19
          Didn't George Santos already win the nomination by acclimation?
          There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post
            Dunno - I don't think anyone was ever attracted to the Pig because they wanted a repulsive elderly man-child for a leader. He totally told them what they wanted to hear, and people are usually stupid suckers, alas.

            What little I know about DeSantis, I loathe --- but I would hope people would prefer hearing all the same evil bullcrap from a grownup, which I gather he is. I always said -and I can link you from 2015 or so- that even if you sadly agreed with Pig about everything, he's. not. the. right. guy.
            I've always thought Trump was slimy and thats mostly why I didn't vote for him, but my view in 2015 changed in early 2018 after I found out Russiagate was a scam. I thought Trump was compromised by Putin, that was just Dems red baiting him. I agree DeSantis is far more palatable to the electorate and Trump risks another big turnout against him. I dont have a read yet on DeSantis' foreign policy, he was a cofounder of the Freedom Caucus so I'd expect some restraint.

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            • #21
              I'm certainly glad Pig didn't screw up foreign relations as much as he did public health policy - or sodomize Democracy on live TV.

              [shrugs] Reactionaries like DeSantis usually don't foul foreign policy nearly so badly as domestic - except when they do. I wouldn't be too shocked if he showed a little sense there.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
                i think DeSantis has the best shot at both winning over trump supporters and winning the white house in 2024. not sure who would be the best running mate for him.
                This. Dems are crapping their pants to and trying to smear DeSantis because they know he'd be a more difficult opponent than Trump.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Dinner View Post

                  This. Dems are crapping their pants to and trying to smear DeSantis because they know he'd be a more difficult opponent than Trump.
                  I think I would say "more viable" as opposed to "more difficult"

                  DeSantis would probably bring the MAGA crowd to his side if he wins the primaries and would be much easier for the mainstream to support. I think Biden-DeSantis ends up being a DeSantis win...and fairly easily.
                  "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                  • #24
                    This why Democrats have spent so much time, energy, and money attempting to lie about and smear him in every way possible. They do so because they fear he will beat them and rightly so.
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                    • Broken_Erika
                      Broken_Erika commented
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                      He's much better than Trump, but that isn't much of a bar to clear. I don't like him 'cause he embraces the Culture War BS.

                  • #25
                    I suspect he's an empty suit, is all. Still 100,000% better than the Pig.
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                    • #26
                      Originally posted by PLATO View Post

                      I think I would say "more viable" as opposed to "more difficult"

                      DeSantis would probably bring the MAGA crowd to his side if he wins the primaries and would be much easier for the mainstream to support. I think Biden-DeSantis ends up being a DeSantis win...and fairly easily.
                      correct - "I think I would say "more viable" as opposed to "more difficult" "

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                      • #27
                        Choice of Trump or DeSantis is like saying, "would you prefer syphilis or gonorrhea?"
                        No thank you.
                        There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                        • #28
                          Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                          Choice of Trump or DeSantis is like saying, "would you prefer syphilis or gonorrhea?"
                          No thank you.
                          and biden is herpes. at least the other have a cure.

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                          • Uncle Sparky
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                            If you've had a cold sore, you've had herpes. So, you admit you prefer Biden.
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