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[Bereta_Eder]

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you have a frikin dictator ddictating to a democractic country what to do


NATO has lost all legitimatcy

it is a land of dictators

[Bereta_Eder]

Yes hello? I'd like to jkoin NATO

I'm sorry sir, are you a dictator?

What? well no...


Well in that case sir I'm so very sorry bit it is a closed club

[Bereta_Eder]

If you don't hate democracy and peace you don't belong in NATO

[Geronimo]

NATO is just a set of treaties. It might be best to draft in parallel a new set of treaties for an exactly equivalent defensive organization -minus Turkey and including Sweden and Finland and see which option Turkey prefers.

[Bereta_Eder]

This is called variable geometry and has been implemented in the european union for decades

[Bereta_Eder]

Wait, did you delete my post about Greece flipping after so many war threats and kicking to the turls back to mongolia?

THEY COME FROM MONGOLIA!


form a lake, I forgewt the name now


IS THIS THE AMERICAN NEW BRAVE WORD?

CENSOSHIP?


HIDDEN DELETION OF EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT OFFEND?


OF THE TRUTH?

[Bereta_Eder]

if even americans don't uphold the freedom of speech what can i say

you had ONE THING to be proud of and you killed it


europe is ahead tehre too

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

I don't believe anything's been deleted from this thread.

[Bereta_Eder]

Thank God i am way past my thirties or I'd believe I'm a schizophrenic.

Didn't I write a fine parting letter to turkey going far away to asia if it keeps talking?


It wasn't even racist.

Anyway maybe I didn't press the key?

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

It was probably another thread, and you used foul language.

[Bereta_Eder]

Let's hope that

[Dauphin]

What purpose does Turkey serve in NATO anymore. Sure it was important in the Cold War, but now?

Same as Iceland. They leveraged their NATO position to screw over the UK and extract value, but if they blocked something like this today they'd just be out.

But anyway, my understanding is that Erdogan will acquiesce after the Turkish elections and he no longer has to be such an overt big swinging dick for awhile.

[PLATO]

What purpose does Turkey serve in NATO anymore. Sure it was important in the Cold War, but now?

Same as Iceland. They leveraged their NATO position to screw over the UK and extract value, but if they blocked something like this today they'd just be out.

But anyway, my understanding is that Erdogan will acquiesce after the Turkish elections and he no longer has to be such an overt big swinging dick for awhile.

Turkiye still plays a vital role in many ways actually. They are host to a major NATO airbase, they sit a strategic navigational bottleneck, they are a gateway to not only the Middle East but Asia as well. In fact, Turkiye is probably the only reliable intermediary between NATO and Russia right now.

The fact that Erdogan is a fundamentalist nut at heart, wants to be a dictator, and seems to really hate Greeks doesn't mean that Turkiye doesn't serve a purpose. It wouldn't bother me a bit if he dropped dead. Turkiye leaving NATO would bother me.

BUT, I do agree that after the election Turkiye will vote to admit both countries and will probably get some nice new F-16s out of it.

[Bereta_Eder]

He doens't hate us PLATO

it is just sad that there is a dictarship dictating to democratic countriew what to do

not to Greece because it is clsoe enought to kick its ass but to sweden

probably the most demoratic country in EUrope

[Bereta_Eder]

I feel we have an obligation to engage in war with turkey for no other reason than democracy