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  • My Wife Hates CIV
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    BCU... what is the truth? what is it to you?

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  • Buster Crabbe's Uncle
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    Originally posted by PLATO View Post
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    Well see, you're all right and you'll come around to the truth eventually, too.

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  • PLATO
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    Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post
    No - the only six Republicans to vote to impeach have been run off by their own.

    That's the Republikkkan Party, cheaters and thieves of Supreme Court seats, because they can't win fairly - and Buster is my niece.
    Sigh.....

    What to do when people have tunnel vision...

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  • PLATO
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    Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post
    and Buster is my niece.
    Edited.

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  • Buster Crabbe's Uncle
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    No - the only six Republicans to vote to impeach have been run off by their own.

    That's the Republikkkan Party, cheaters and thieves of Supreme Court seats, because they can't win fairly - and Buster is my niece.

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  • PLATO
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    Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post
    Well, that's your party. They tried to overthrow the government on TV while I watched, and you're going to have to live with - there is no justice in the leaders and accessories-after-the-fact getting away with it, which they have- and you're going to need to make peace with us sane people who like Democracy and The American Way being upset.

    Like, until there's justice for not just the frontline soldiers, but the leaders. Like forever.
    My Party? Really now BCU.

    Saying that it was the Republican party just because Trump encouraged it?

    I think it was my party that had Pence uphold the Constitution and have to do so in fear for his life. That's my party.
    Last edited by PLATO; January 12, 2023, 20:22.

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  • Buster Crabbe's Uncle
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    Well, that's your party. They tried to overthrow the government on TV while I watched, and you're going to have to live with - there is no justice in the leaders and accessories-after-the-fact getting away with it, which they have- and you're going to need to make peace with us sane people who like Democracy and The American Way being upset.

    Like, until there's justice for not just the frontline soldiers, but the leaders. Like forever.

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  • PLATO
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    Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post
    Well, Plato, you'd win me over a lot if you'd denounce the Cheney Bund -torture ain't the American Way- at least that much, not with the crap-talking all the dummies and emotional cripples all over the nets make with everywhere you go.

    You sound like an actual conservative -I already thought so- and you need to realize that you're in bed with not-your-own-kind, and avoid talking like one. They are why I said Republikkkans, and after they tried to overthrow the government with the -at least- support of the party mainstream after the fact, that's their Nazi fault, not mine. As one of the Liberals Perpetually Screaming on Twitter was saying at the time, "What do you call a guy and 10 Nazis all running together? 11 Nazis running."

    Get out while you still can. Time for revenge for the 60s and Watergate is decades over. The grownups and real conservatives need to take over the Libertarian Party, as I was saying seven years ago.
    A few things here...

    First, I absolutely do not believe in torture (unless of course someone does something vile to my wife or kids, but then I would be happy to do it myself). I think there are MUCH more effective ways of getting information.

    Second, If all the actual conservatives left the Republican party then all you are left with is extremist with a nationwide organization in place. Don't want that at all.

    Third, I am a Libertarian in a lot of ways. I just can't stomach the isolationism though. I think the American presence in the world is overall a very good thing for the world. Yes, it gets abused from time to time, but overall a very good thing. If Libertarians would get over isolationism, then they would get a lot of traction with me.

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  • Buster Crabbe's Uncle
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    -Also, that's fantasy about the Democrats being in lockstep. I guess you never heard the one about the Democrat firing squad? They form a circle.

    I heard a Democratic congressman tell CBS that one in the 70s. Nothing has changed.

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  • Buster Crabbe's Uncle
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    Well, Plato, you'd win me over a lot if you'd denounce the Cheney Bund -torture ain't the American Way- at least that much, not with the crap-talking all the dummies and emotional cripples all over the nets make with everywhere you go.

    You sound like an actual conservative -I already thought so- and you need to realize that you're in bed with not-your-own-kind, and avoid talking like one. They are why I said Republikkkans, and after they tried to overthrow the government with the -at least- support of the party mainstream after the fact, that's their Nazi fault, not mine. As one of the Liberals Perpetually Screaming on Twitter was saying at the time, "What do you call a guy and 10 Nazis all running together? 11 Nazis running."

    Get out while you still can. Time for revenge for the 60s and Watergate is decades over. The grownups and real conservatives need to take over the Libertarian Party, as I was saying seven years ago.

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  • Dauphin
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    Saying Trump did some good things is like saying Hitler had that great autobahn policy.

    Saying Trump is a Nazi is a 'the sky is falling' self-defeating narrative.

    That's what you get with polarisation.

    I remember when I didn't really care who won - Democrat or Republican. Now I don't like the Republican candidates, and the Democrats would rather be right than effective.

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  • PLATO
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    Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post

    Why you make with the reactionary talking points, Plato?
    I don't know. I guess I am just fed up with Politics in general. I do believe that Trump did some very good things. I don't want him to be President or anything else ever again. It is just the constant vilifying of him that I object to. A lot of people agree with you about Trump and a lot of people don't. I believe that a lot of the criticism is unfounded and purely political. I believe a lot of it is true. I also believe that there is ample reason to criticize many, many other politicians. I am a Republican, but not a Trumpist. I abhor the way that people continually see them as one thing.

    I stand for small unobtrusive government, power concentrated as locally as is reasonable, social justice, equal rights and opportunity for all, a strong defense, and fiscal conservatism. To me, the Republican party is closer on all those than the Democratic party. Do the Democrats grade out higher in some of those areas to me? YES. But overall, the Republicans are a better fit.

    One last thing on Republicans...the recent Speaker votes show just how many different kinds of Republicans there are. Democrats seem to mostly vote as a block and there seems little divergent opinions among them (Joe Manchin obviously an exception). Many consider it a weakness in Republicans and a strength in Democrats. I feel exactly the opposite. I believe that divergent opinions and robust debates within parties make the party stronger and more inclusive in the end.

    So...to make a long story short...I am just tired of people picking a side and spouting a line when the truth is far murkier than simply vilifying the opposition.

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  • Buster Crabbe's Uncle
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    There IS no TDS - he's truly awful, failing as an adult, let alone any kind of leader - beyond organized crime. That ain't nothin' but talking crap.

    Why you make with the reactionary talking points, Plato?

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  • PLATO
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    Originally posted by ZEE View Post
    Most liberals are just stressed out and angry. Power hungry? hmm I don't know but it's a good lie to get the right-wing base all stirred up. Hypocrites? Yes, but its by design not motive. Almost a survival mechanism. Easy to actually confuse them with insane people, but they clearly know what they are doing.

    If they were in full control of congress and presidency, guess what... they will find something else to be angry about.
    Actually I think it is more about control than power...whatever the difference is there. I truly believe that the democrats have a "we know best" attitude and are willing to IMPOSE their views on the nation. They vilify anyone who disagrees with them and try to legislate things that are beyond constitutional authority. No offense, but I think even Buster has fallen into this trap with his "RepubliKKKan" comment. Clearly all Republicans are not racist and clearly some Democrats are.( i will only mention the current President's clearly racist background and numerous racist remarks in passing here). The whole idea behind TDS is to separate Americans and vilify the opponents of Democrats.

    Now this is just my opinion, but to me it is clear...Democrats have been lying to the African American community for years and with all the power they have accumulated they have done very little to create truly equal opportunity. They play lip service to a voting block they feel they can control and rarely produce any concrete changes. Why was it that Trump was the one to increase funding to Historically Black Universities? Why was it Trump that had the highest Black employment rate in history? Why was it Trump that passed Criminal Justice Reform? If Democrats actually put action to their policies then surely this could have been accomplished during 8 years of a Democratic Presidency that proceeded him. The answer is that it is about control for the Democrats...pure and simple. They want everyone to think and believe as they do. THAT is a real danger to Democracy...when you try and silence the opposition.

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  • ZEE
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    Most liberals are just stressed out and angry. Power hungry? hmm I don't know but it's a good lie to get the right-wing base all stirred up. Hypocrites? Yes, but its by design not motive. Almost a survival mechanism. Easy to actually confuse them with insane people, but they clearly know what they are doing.

    If they were in full control of congress and presidency, guess what... they will find something else to be angry about.

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