liberal hypocrisies

[-Jrabbit]

Dude, it's a teenager in front of a microphone. Get a grip.

[-Jrabbit]

That's just a generalization. The same can clearly be said of both sides.

[Berzerker]

"was an attempt to give Ukraine time"

as for Adam Schiff, we were fighting Russia over there and Ukrainians were our foot soldiers

[BeBMan]

Merkel and others have admitted the Minsk Accord was designed to give the west time to build the Ukrainian military for this war.

"The 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. They used that time to get stronger, which you can see today. Ukraine of 2014/15 is not Ukraine of today." - Angela Merkel

Where does it say "Minsk Accord was designed to give the west time to build the Ukrainian military for this war." like you claimed above, and which I replied to? Where did Merkel indicate at any time during the negotiations for Minsk I or II that she had prescient knowledge Putin would invade Ukraine Feb 22, so years before he actually did invade (="this war") ? Did Merkel and Putin conspire to attack Ukraine in Feb 22 or was she reading Vlad's mind?!?

We are helping Ukraine "so that we can fight Russia over there, and we dont have to fight Russia over here" - Adam Schiff 2020

Wow, you really got him there. He's not keen on fighting Russia in the US, big reveal.

[Berzerker]

Completely out-of-context and frankly distorted summary of what she actually said, not the first, and I'm afraid not the last from you

Thats what she said, Minsk was a delaying tactic to build Ukraine up. Thats why Minsk was never fulfilled, it wasn't meant to be honored. The CIA and Ukrainian right wing kept the war going so peace wouldn't break out. If Minsk was actually enforced Ukraine would have to invade the Donbas again when the US pulled the trigger. So they kept the war going until Trump was replaced by neocons, Biden's election made this war inevitable.

"The 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. They used that time to get stronger, which you can see today. Ukraine of 2014/15 is not Ukraine of today." - Angela Merkel

We are helping Ukraine "so that we can fight Russia over there, and we dont have to fight Russia over here" - Adam Schiff 2020

[MyHubbyLovesCiv2]

I stopped caring about left/right or liberal/conservative or similar yrs ago, at least as long we're not talking extremists. Not saying it's all the same, but unless ppl indicate what they actually stand for the labels are rather meaningless to me.

I agree, but then that may be why so many politicians seem like hypocrites nowadays. What they say and actually do, is completely different after elections. Currently, so many seem to be pushing for a global government which is simply not feasible without curtailing the freedoms of the many by the rule of a few.

[BeBMan]

I considered myself a 'liberal' meaning economic freedom and social freedom. Never really saw it as left or right. I'm turned off by the lefts economic policies and the rights social policies. The right are full of wankers and bastards, and the left is full of lunatics.

I stopped caring about left/right or liberal/conservative or similar yrs ago, at least as long we're not talking extremists. Not saying it's all the same, but unless ppl indicate what they actually stand for the labels are rather meaningless to me.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

Biden was deemed to be "healthy" and "vigorous" in his latest physical conducted Thursday but medical experts pointed out his doctor didn't mention the president's mental status. This part of the exam was conveniently left out. Did biden take a mental status exam? did he fail it? How many countless dems/libs demanded trump take a mental status exam?! this is just more liberal hypocrisy.

[BeBMan]

Merkel and others have admitted the Minsk Accord was designed to give the west time to build the Ukrainian military for this war.

Completely out-of-context and frankly distorted summary of what she actually said, not the first, and I'm afraid not the last from you

[My Wife Hates CIV]

"While I appreciate all the "truth" in this thrade about liberals, I do not need any additional reasons to dislike them."

mwhc - wait... MWHC has a new respect for ZEE, yes, driniking. but at same time. i appreciate your post. yes... i do.

[EPW]

Tucker Carlson could teach liberals a thing or two about hypocrisies.

[ZEE]

While I appreciate all the "truth" in this thrade about liberals, I do not need any additional reasons to dislike them. You repubs drive yourself into a furor, it's frankly not healthy.

And when you get upset you make mistakes, that's what the libs want anyway.

[Berzerker]

We destroyed Libya and shipped their weapons to Turkey and backed a coup in Ukraine to arm ISIS and Azov. Trump let Putin end ISIS in Syria and Mad Dog Mattis resigned so they impeached him for interfering with their war in Ukraine. Neocons want US hegemony and China is the real target, but we have to pick off allies first, proxy wars and regime change is the plan. Samantha Power from USAID, a CIA front for spreading "democracy" to countries disobeying us, just visited Hungary. They wont help the war in Ukraine. If she shows up at your door, its a threat.

Do you believe the US wanted peace? Merkel and others have admitted the Minsk Accord was designed to give the west time to build the Ukrainian military for this war. Neocons fear a Europe buying Russian resources, their growing economic ties weakens the US. Look at a map of US bases around the world and compare them to Russian and Chinese bases.

The US funded Osama bin Laden and the Mujahideen under Carter and Reagan. When Bush and Clinton left our military in Saudi Arabia to enforce sanctions on Iraq he started attacking us. The first attack on the WTC was early '93 when Clinton didn't start removing the troops. Bush could have avoided 9/11 by ending the policy but we kept killing Iraqis instead of leaving. Thats what neocons have done to this country, they want corporate and political dominance of the world.

[BeBMan]

I didn't say terrorists and Nazis were no concern or acceptable, I said I was more concerned when my govt arms them. That makes us complicit in their crimes. For 8 years we armed Nazis killing Ukrainians and I've concluded that was evil, how about you? And we were arming terrorists in Afghanistan for years including the people behind 9/11.

That's a bunch of nonsense

[Berzerker]

Nancy Pelosi's daughter, I think the one who makes documentaries, was caught on tape saying Jan 6 was not an insurrection