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    Have any of you ever read the novel?

  • #2
    The novel is a brilliant prediction of where the West came in 2000+
    Last edited by Serb; June 11, 2022, 16:51.

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    • #3
      You thought it is about the red ass commies, but it is about YOU!!!

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      • #4
        You are the 1984 of nowadays!

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        • #5
          You have a ministery of truth!
          War is peace and white is black!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Serb View Post
            You have a ministery of truth!
            War is peace and white is black!
            This is kind of funny - russia invaded another country, but it wasn't a war, nono, it was just peacekeeping - only problem was that tte Ukrainians didn't want to get "liberated" the belarus way.

            Also get a bit funny when Moskowood makes movies about the "truth" that noone can confirm - quite contrary to what happens inside Ukraine where independent journalists (a term not known in russia - they are mostly killed by the government) confirm that russian soldiers are killed at a ratio of 1:5 (ukraine:russia).
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

            Steven Weinberg

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            • Egbert
              Egbert commented
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              The west has also experienced a few problems with "peacekeeping" missions that were unwanted by the inhabitants of various countries.

            • N35t0r
              N35t0r commented
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              Yeah, and?

              Does this somehow justify Russia's invasion?

              Also, a lot of people locally complained about those, and weren't put in jail for it.

            • Egbert
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              No. It does not justify Russian invading Ukraine.
              I would like to see less "intervening" and invading.

          • #7
            Classic
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #9
                There may actually be something to what Serb is saying. Not to the extent he is implying though. Within the US we have added Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, and now we are even discussing an agency to monitor "disinformation". All of this in the name of security. Freedom is slowly being eroded as we give up privacy and freedom because we are "scared". Overall, the trend here is to more government involvement in everyday life while our politicians become less and less accountable to the people. The last due to the great divide that has happened politically in our country.

                All that being said, we are still enormously more free than a totalitarian State like Russia, but there is something to what Serb is saying. We should all be at least aware of that.
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • #10
                  If you think those are bad, check out the Aliens and Sedition Acts of 1798
                  One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by PLATO View Post

                    All that being said, we are still enormously more free than a totalitarian State like Russia,


                    You don't even have a fkn clue how wrong you are by repeating the same mantras your minestery of truth has put into your heads!
                    If you had ever seen any Russian political shows, you would know that there are a lot of opinions from all involved sides, be it Ukraine, America or Europe.
                    You don't have such luxury, because you have BANNED all the Russian talkers from your media space!

                    You are a fkn totalitarian Empire of Lies!
                    (living in your fancy lying World, where you still fell comfortable).

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                    • #12
                      Your regime killed journalists and politicians that opposed putin


                      Even turkey only imprisons them, they don't kill them



                      Europe +US (she's a bit silly) democracies


                      Russia + Turkey = evil

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                      • #13
                        Glad you are back. Was getting boring around here with only logical arguments from thoughtful people.

                        Don't worry about any banning. Soon we will ban your pipsqueak excuse of a country from existence. I hear the discussions on how to break up Russia are already taking place. After what we have seen from your military in Ukraine we might just let the Poles take care of it and not even waste our time.
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                          Your regime killed journalists and politicians that opposed putin


                          Even turkey only imprisons them, they don't kill them



                          Europe +US (she's a bit silly) democracies


                          Russia + Turkey = evil

                          Tell your lies to Julian Assange.

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                          • #15
                            Russia gave you freedom from Turkey, ungrateful bastard.

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