Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BeBMan]

Meduza revealed that Putin armed the Nazis. And just recently Reuters found out that he also gave them roles in his presidential apparatus.

[N35t0r]

Russia is also using cluster munitions, so I don't get your anger.

Also, and critically, Ukraine is using cluster munitions in their own country through their own volition. Russia is using cluster munitions while invading another country. Big difference.

Never mind about the millions of mines that you have haphazardly dropped all over the place.

[Berzerker]

To my knowledge we had nothing to do with Putin attacking Ukraine.

Well, I have heard Far Left accusations that his interactions with Trump had encouraged him.

You can't ask people to surrender and die. It is not 'never ending war' for people to defend their country and their lives.

JM

Read up on Ukrainian history since 2004

So Putin attacked because of Trump, had nothing to do with Biden.

Wouldn't we be asking them to surrender so they dont die? It is never ending war when we go around the world looking to arm fanatics in proxy wars.

[Jon Miller]

To my knowledge we had nothing to do with Putin attacking Ukraine.

Well, I have heard Far Left accusations that his interactions with Trump had encouraged him.

You can't ask people to surrender and die. It is not 'never ending war' for people to defend their country and their lives.

JM

[Berzerker]

yup, thats a reason for never ending war

[Jon Miller]

We say we are giving 1 billion (for example). This means that we payed the arms manufacturers 1 billion, but often times what is provided is old equipment that we would store or destroy or was otherwise no longer worth 1 billion (to us). Obviously if we get rid of missiles/etc, then we need to purchase more, and we are purchasing from the arms manufacturers.

If Ukraine could buy on open market, which often they can't, they would probably pay a lot less than 1 billion.

JM

[Berzerker]

Mitch McConnell admitted the quiet part out loud - he says most of that $$$ we're pouring into Ukraine is actually going to US weapons makers (who pay for his elections, no, he didn't admit to that but its true)

[Berzerker]

Saakashvili thought so in 2008, when he attacked Osetia.

Is that the same guy who ended up in charge of the Odessa region in 2014 during the right wing purge of protesters? Weren't we dangling Nato membership to Georgia too?

[Berzerker]

better make peace now and negotiate for an independent Donbas or Russia will start gobbling up more land, could even make Ukraine landlocked as Poland et al move into western Ukraine

[Berzerker]

Did Meduza reveal Biden armed the Nazis?

[BlackCat]

Zelensky has been visiting europa and have received 42 F-16 from the Nederlands and a further 19 from Denmark.

[BeBMan]

Interesting discussion of the opening of delivering F16's ti Ukraine

Russia has integrated air defence

Which means they will down all 500 F16s delivered per month in few days

[BeBMan]

Russian women fear return of murderers freed to fight for Wagner

Concern that convicts re-entering society after stints in Ukraine will bring ‘wave of murder, rape and domestic violence’


The 2020 murder of Vera Pekhteleva, by her ex-boyfriend, was so gruesome that even in Russia, where violence against women often goes under the radar, it caused a media outcry.

Vladislav Kanyus spent hours torturing Pekhteleva before she died; neighbours repeatedly called police to report horrifying screams coming from the neighbouring apartment, but the police did not show up. At trial, it emerged there had been 111 injuries on Pekhteleva’s body.

Last summer, a court in Siberia sentenced Kanyus to 17 years in prison for the murder. Pekhteleva’s family members were disappointed that the judge dismissed additional charges of rape and unlawful imprisonment, but breathed a sigh of relief that the murder charge alone would put Kanyus behind bars for 17 years.

Nine months later, in the middle of May, Pekhteleva’s mother received two photographs from an anonymous account on WhatsApp. They showed a man in military fatigues and were accompanied by a message: “Kanyus is free, and fighting in Ukraine.”

“I couldn’t believe my eyes, I tried to calm her down, I tried to say it wasn’t him, it was Photoshop. But we quickly realised it really was him,” said Vladimir Pekhtelev, Vera’s uncle, in a telephone interview from the Siberian city of Kemerovo.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/19/russian-women-wagner-convicts-war-ukraine

[BeBMan]

Meduza revealed that Putin armed the Nazis. And just recently Reuters found out that he also gave them roles in his presidential apparatus.

[Geronimo]

An in person gathering of drone manufacturers seems incredibly stupid. They couldn't meet virtually? Hopefully no operations critical personal were sent.