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  • The Mad Monk
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    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
    It is, however, why the Baltics announced they had the intention to join NATO the second the Russians had stepped off their necks, and they worked as hard as possible to do so. And that's the reason they're still independent nations, rather than us talking about them like we do about Chechnya.
    Speaking of which, here is an interesting take on Lithuania's current relationship with Russia, and the history thereof.

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  • N35t0r
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    Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post

    Curious thing about Chechnya is that we were perfectly happy for Putin killing Muslims...

    ​​We even rewarded him by inviting him for a state visit and he even met the Queen.

    Funny that...
    I sure didn't invite him, and most certainly wasn't perfectly happy, so speak for yourself.

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  • giblets
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    Any time someone cites an example from history to support their argument just tell them to go read a history book without elaborating.

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  • Geronimo
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    Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post

    Again, please consult the history books...
    elaborate. maybe we aren't reading the same history books.

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  • MOBIUS
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    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
    It is, however, why the Baltics announced they had the intention to join NATO the second the Russians had stepped off their necks, and they worked as hard as possible to do so. And that's the reason they're still independent nations, rather than us talking about them like we do about Chechnya.
    Curious thing about Chechnya is that we were perfectly happy for Putin killing Muslims...

    ​​We even rewarded him by inviting him for a state visit and he even met the Queen.

    Funny that...

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  • MOBIUS
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    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

    That's also why Czechoslovakia had no problem with being neutral in '68, right? Oh.
    Again, please consult the history books...

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  • N35t0r
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    It is, however, why the Baltics announced they had the intention to join NATO the second the Russians had stepped off their necks, and they worked as hard as possible to do so. And that's the reason they're still independent nations, rather than us talking about them like we do about Chechnya.

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  • N35t0r
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    Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
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    Their neutrality prevented them from being absorbed into the Soviet sphere.

    'Finlandization'

    Look it up. They were ridiculed for it in the West. What is this toxic masculine need avoid losing face by standing up and fighting an obviously losing fight - instead of walking away and preserving your life...!?

    How many people here would stand up to a bully, knowing that if you did you'd be beaten so badly you might even be killed, or just walk away...? We all know the answer. Not me and none of you...🤷

    The Soviets wouldn't have allowed Finland to join NATO then, hence why they stayed neutral and maintained their overall independence.

    You failed your homework assignment. D-👎
    That's also why Czechoslovakia had no problem with being neutral in '68, right? Oh.

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  • BeBMan
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    Hm, using (this) "logic"...what does this make of Russia in relation to China and NK...

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  • MOBIUS
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    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    Same with Sweden.
    Sweden has Finland as human shields 😅

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  • MOBIUS
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    Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

    exactly. They had decades of "neutrality" behind them as precedent and they went out of their way to willfully throw that away and lobby and struggle to join NATO. How do you explain that motivation?
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    Their neutrality prevented them from being absorbed into the Soviet sphere.

    'Finlandization'

    Look it up. They were ridiculed for it in the West. What is this toxic masculine need avoid losing face by standing up and fighting an obviously losing fight - instead of walking away and preserving your life...!?

    How many people here would stand up to a bully, knowing that if you did you'd be beaten so badly you might even be killed, or just walk away...? We all know the answer. Not me and none of you...🤷

    The Soviets wouldn't have allowed Finland to join NATO then, hence why they stayed neutral and maintained their overall independence.

    You failed your homework assignment. D-👎

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  • Dinner
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    Same with Sweden.

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  • Geronimo
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    Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post

    Um. You have no grasp of history, do you? 🙄

    What did Finland do between the end of WWII and the end of the Soviet Union and why?

    That is your homework, genius.
    exactly. They had decades of "neutrality" behind them as precedent and they went out of their way to willfully throw that away and lobby and struggle to join NATO. How do you explain that motivation?

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  • MOBIUS
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    Hey geniuses, where are the Ukrainian reserves to arrest the rapid disintegration of their lines in the Donbas?

    Oh wait, they were squandered in Kursk...!

    The Russians are engaged in multiple encircling manoeuvres that probably wouldn't be possible if Ukraine had strong strategic reserves on that front.

    As I warned about and predicted.🙄

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  • MOBIUS
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    Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post

    Finland also did "what the US wanted it to do". What did Russia do in response? I mean, it is RIGHT THERE. If it wanted to, it could easily reach out and touch someone in, say, St Petersburg or Moscow. Its joining NATO is a much larger threat.

    Could it be that the Winter War has not been forgotten?

    That, like the mangy, lice infested lone wolf it is, Russia is only picking on prey it believes are much weaker than it is, and is counting on its growls and hackles to intimidate others away from assisting?

    ...

    Well, that's worked out, hasn't it?
    Um. You have no grasp of history, do you? 🙄

    What did Finland do between the end of WWII and the end of the Soviet Union and why?

    That is your homework, genius.

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