Vaxxine Rebellion

[Kidlicious]

I never said that her story was true. You keep claiming that even though it's not true.

[Ming]

No... I'm simply saying that somebody that tells a crazy ass story with no proof, and then journalists and health officials investigate and find nothing, is simply a liar. Whether you believe her or not is not the issue. The issue is that you are defending her story.
So in kidland, you can simply say anything you want and it might be true... gee, just like Trumps claim he won in a landslide...

[ricketyclik]

I must admit, although I am pro vaccination and totally understand that being vaccinated not only lowers my own risk but that of the community as a whole, I'm with Kid in that I don't think people should be forced to take the vaccine.

Educational material explaining the benefits and countering the misinformation should be promoted, free and convenient access should be available, and incentives offered. Ultimately though, if someone has such a deep distrust of government, health institutions and science, and if they're scientific literacy and numeracy is that poor, then forcing them will only entrench those. I think it's counterproductive overall to mandate, in this case.

I'd place a proviso that until everyone who wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated that those who aren't should have their ability to infect others curtailed.

If it were ebola, polio, or something else that seriously affected a higher percentage of the population, I might be more in favour.

[Kidlicious]

No... I'm simply saying that somebody that tells a crazy ass story with no proof, and then journalists and health officials investigate and find nothing, is simply a liar. Whether you believe her or not is not the issue. The issue is that you are defending her story.
So in kidland, you can simply say anything you want and it might be true... gee, just like Trumps claim he won in a landslide...

If you just keep saying that I'm defending her story then I don't know what to say. But I'm defending her. I don't care if she lied. That's her business.

[-Jrabbit]

Yeah, she needs you to be her White Knight.

[Kidlicious]

I doubt it's a lie, but if it is then it's an epic troll. She really exposed a lot of people

[Kidlicious]

I must admit, although I am pro vaccination and totally understand that being vaccinated not only lowers my own risk but that of the community as a whole, I'm with Kid in that I don't think people should be forced to take the vaccine.

Educational material explaining the benefits and countering the misinformation should be promoted, free and convenient access should be available, and incentives offered. Ultimately though, if someone has such a deep distrust of government, health institutions and science, and if they're scientific literacy and numeracy is that poor, then forcing them will only entrench those. I think it's counterproductive overall to mandate, in this case.

I'd place a proviso that until everyone who wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated that those who aren't should have their ability to infect others curtailed.

If it were ebola, polio, or something else that seriously affected a higher percentage of the population, I might be more in favour.

I think the vaccines are good. I just think Biden is doing this for his approval rating. I would like to see people like Dr Fauci and Joe Biden go to prison where they belong then we can talk about trusting the government.

[Kidlicious]

I think that's how they programmed you to think. That's why you believe all their lies.

[ricketyclik]

Wrong. The government is full of liars and crooks. They are horrible people that can't be trusted. If you think otherwise then maybe you are brainwashed by fake news.

I presume you're referring to the current US government.  I agree, but as pointed out below, they are the current least bad option.  That's generally the way democracy works.  It's an imperfect system, but we still haven't got a better one.

(I think a way to improve democracy is by having more proportional representation, by way of voting systems like Hare-Clark).

[Kidlicious]

Sure there's least bad options but that doesn't solve the problems that we have. When you have corruption like this the least worst candidate doesn't make significant difference.

[Berzerker]

If you're in your 60s or over and unvaccinated you have over 12% chance of dying in the hospital.

is that 12% of people over 60 admitted to the hospital die?

[Kidlicious]

is that 12% of people over 60 admitted to the hospital die?

Yes. That's the only statistic I could find. If you don't get admitted to the hospital then you aren't included. I know people that got it and never got admitted and I know a 29 year old that got it and had to go to the hospital more than once. He said it was really bad, but he lived.

[-Jrabbit]

I think it's hilarious that Berz is just accepting Kid's assertions and statistics without any hint of their source, timing, or verity.
Not saying it's untrue. But it's definitely amusing.

[Kidlicious]

I think it's hilarious that Berz is just accepting Kid's assertions and statistics without any hint of their source, timing, or verity.
Not saying it's untrue. But it's definitely amusing.

It's amazing that you still trust the people that pulled the Russis hoax on you.

[Ming]

You seem to still trust all the people that keep saying Trump won... that pretty much sums it up.

[Kidlicious]

Not a hoax

[Ming]

Not a hoax

Just another member of his cult...

[Kidlicious]

Talk to me when I take a vaccine because a guy with mashed potato brains tells me to.

[Ming]

Gee... you do whatever a narcissist, pathological liar and childish baby tells you do....