The Cost of COVID

[SlowwHand]

I'm not talking about lockdowns and loss of money in various aspects.
Governments around the world have made vaccines available to all, at no cost to people.
Some refuse it and that's fine. Whether they think that it isn't tested thoroughly, suspected implants or that Bill Gates is a lizard, that's fine.
This is the question.
If a person comes down with COVID and goes to the hospital, who pays the bill?
I'm talking about people who refused the vaccine of their own choice and can't provide documentation from their doctor that for some reason, they had been advised to decline.
Now what?
My personal perspective is that they shouldn't be admitted and treated at s County Hospital at no cost to them. I pay taxes that keep Parkland in Dallas running. I have no interest in paying for someone that declined a free vaccine.
If they're treated, they should be billed.
Wait, it gets deeper.
What about people with health insurance that declined? Should the insurance company be responsible for paying?

[Egbert]

I am very strongly in favour of mandatory vaccination.

I would like to go fully Kim Jong Un on forced vaccinations.

[Uncle Sparky]

Hey USA!

2nd Amendment - shoot anti-vaxxers with dart guns! 99% get J&J single dose and 1% get bleach (recommended by Trump).

[SlowwHand]

A) An Asian dwarf is of no consideration.
B) This has nothing to do with Trump, or bleach.
C) It has nothing to do with 2nd Amendment.

It's s question of who pays. If you aren't capable of making valid points, then go outside and play. Let the adults discuss.

[Uncle Sparky]

AMERICANS ONLY TREAD ******

Your question is irrelevant in civilized countries. So the rest of the world should be able to mock you.

[Egbert]

Civilised countries, not America, have free healthcare for citizens.

[Egbert]

I am strongly in favour of compulsory vaccination with my reason being responsibility to keeping the community safe. That also avoids the difficult question of who pays for those who do not observe their responsibility to the community. Remove choice on the basis of responsibilty to protect the community via herd immunity.

Firstly, should those who avoid vaccination get healthcare on any basis? I would say yes rather than let them die even though they have been irresponsible. I also think that as part of a compulsory vaccination regime they go to the back of the queue for healthcare. a

Secondly, we get to your question of who pays. I think they should still get treated under Medicare (free australian healthcare system for all Aussies) and fine them for not getting vaccinated, and maybe jail them. Effectively the government would pay the healthcare on one hand and fine the same individual on the other hand.

[SlowwHand]

So in other words, in countries not of Socialist persuasion, the vaccine protestors should be billed. Is that essentially correct?

[Egbert]

Yes.

Is there not free choice in America. Pay or die?

[SlowwHand]

Not officially, but that's pretty much the point of my question.

[N35t0r]

I'm not talking about lockdowns and loss of money in various aspects.
Governments around the world have made vaccines available to all, at no cost to people.
Some refuse it and that's fine. Whether they think that it isn't tested thoroughly, suspected implants or that Bill Gates is a lizard, that's fine.
This is the question.
If a person comes down with COVID and goes to the hospital, who pays the bill?
I'm talking about people who refused the vaccine of their own choice and can't provide documentation from their doctor that for some reason, they had been advised to decline.
Now what?
My personal perspective is that they shouldn't be admitted and treated at s County Hospital at no cost to them. I pay taxes that keep Parkland in Dallas running. I have no interest in paying for someone that declined a free vaccine.
If they're treated, they should be billed.
Wait, it gets deeper.
What about people with health insurance that declined? Should the insurance company be responsible for paying?

Should smokers be denied coverage of lung cancer treatments as well?

[BeBMan]

As I see it the fair solution would be that I get the vaccine for free, and all other people send me a 100 bucks each.

[Dauphin]

Should smokers be denied coverage of lung cancer treatments as well?

In many countries the tax intake on cigarettes, alcohol and some other vices exceed the associated medical costs resulting from their use.

I’d argue they’ve paid for it.

[Jon Miller]

For alcohol does that include domestic violence, car accidents, etc?

JM

[Egbert]

In many countries the tax intake on cigarettes, alcohol and some other vices exceed the associated medical costs resulting from their use.

I’d argue they’ve paid for it.

True. I recall reading that Australian tobacco excises raised about $9 billion whereas medical costs from smoking were estimated at about $ billion cost.
I can't recall how long ago I read this and my figures may be a bit off however my readers will get the drift.

[-Jrabbit]

If you refuse the free vaccine, then contract COVID-19, you should expect to pay for treatment.
That should not be a controversial statement.

[SlowwHand]

Thank you for a straight answer to a simple question.