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  • The changing nature of facts

    When I a boy in the schoolhouse a fact was regarded an objective reality.

    Years later facts seemed to have morphed into things shaped by perceptions. That was when spin doctors were on the rise and Ronald Reagan was being the "great prevaricator". Facts were still an objective reality but they perceptions of those had become malleable. Perhaps even elastic.

    Now facts seem to be evaluated not by reference to objective reality but by reference to utility. Ask not whether a fact corresponds to reality but whether it draws you towards certain predetermined and desired conclusions. Logic and reason no longer have the primacy as the means of deploying facts. Rather arguments must have a certain resonance with desire. Such were my thoughts on "facts" in this age of alternative facts and fake news.

    I read this which explains the breakdown in trust and diminished confidence in our institutions. It is well worth a read.

    The terms "national security" or "cyber-security" may be familiar – but what about "epistemic security"?

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    the great human mistake was thinking human information rises to the level of objective truth

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    • #3
      "What is truth?" -- Some Roman Guy
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • #4
        Also facts have always been (ab/mis)used for this or that aganda, and lies, misinfo etc. are also not new, but the way to generate and spread it all en masse has changed with tech.

        I blame Tim Apple, because I can
        Blah

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        • #5
          "Facts are tricky things." - Ben Kenobi
          Order of the Fly
          Those that cannot curse, cannot heal.

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          • #6
            I just want to note that my above post sounds very wise, because I used the mighty "it's been done before" approach
            Blah

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            • #7
              watch from around 9:17


              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #8
                BBC
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  As easy as 223
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • #10
                    Facts are for Commies!
                    I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
                    Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
                    Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!

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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        none of this would have happened if I had been allowed to yiff that otter.
                        I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                        [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                        • #13
                          Last edited by DARcness; May 12, 2021, 14:09.
                          "Fanaticism is to superstition what delirium is to fever and fury to anger." -Voltaire

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                          • #14
                            American Republicans who had a rare opportunity to change, have decided to double down once again on the Big Lie. And back the failed casino owner. Pathetic.
                            There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                              American Republicans who had a rare opportunity to change, have decided to double down once again on the Big Lie. And back the failed casino owner. Pathetic.
                              Let's see how long until they split into 2 parties.
                              I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
                              Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
                              Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!

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