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  • The Red states vs The Blue states.

    Two SCNs that I can think of. Trump wins and the Blue States split. Basically the cities in Cali, Oregon, Washington state, the Northeast. These cities would be islands in a sea of Red. The Central and South would go Red States. These would be vast Red areas with Blue cities. The military bases in the US and around the world, and the ships in the fleets, would each face the same dynamics on a smaller scale. I'd expect the nature of this divide in the US to lead to civil war, as states try to first unify themselves, and then the battle expanding outward at the endless borders. As the nation goes so goes the military, with a predominance of Red, but enough Blue to render large parts of the forces ineffective for dealing with outside threats. The ships will head where they will. Virginia is split, I'd expect the Red States and military here to predominate. That means Newport News goes to the Red. The ports on the Left Coast, Long Beach etc, Blue. Think Blue would have the most problems subduing everything outside the cities, while the Red could just shut up the cities and wait until they get hungry. Places like Guam and Diego Garcia would likely go Red, military...but NATO would likely move to disarm old US forces and repatriate them wherever when they could. Or intern them. I'll continue later, breakfast has arrived.
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    I would expect that the military would be patriots and so be opposed to seditious traitors. We can see that in the recent election
    Trump witness says it's 'odd' so many US troops voted for Biden - Business Insider

    Also in polls and the like. Many of the sane Republicans also voted Biden, which is probably what caused Arizona and Georgia to 'flip'.

    Many of my far left friends are depressed by the outcome.

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    • #3
      Wars are fought by young people, and most young people who voted favor Biden.

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      • #4
        Perhaps. However the young have many among them who will obey orders. Regarding being Patriots, agree, but I rather think that Trump putting in loyalists at the Pentagon... Think many are Trump supporters anyway. The military isn't the population, the military tends Red, even the young.
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        • #5
          In the event of a civil war, the reds would start slaughtering black and brown people en masse. The blues would be recognized as the legitimate government by most of the rest of the world (minus Russia) and receive support from the rest of NATO.

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          • #6
            Oh such crap.
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            • #7
              I want Lancer to change his avatar back to the Civ 2 Crusader, and not that extremely ugly old dude. I mean WOW!
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              • #8
                The vast majority of black people vote Democratic. Naturally they would have no interest in being part of a neo-Confederacy and would be viewed as enemies by the neo-Confederates. Roving death squads would start murdering black civilians in order to instill terror and keep them in line. They would make Serbians look like Teletubbies.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ZEE View Post
                  I want Lancer to change his avatar back to the Civ 2 Crusader, and not that extremely ugly old dude. I mean WOW!
                  The Crusader was at WPC. No idea what it used to be here.
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                  • pchang
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                    At least use a higher resolution image. I can’t see anything at all.

                • #10
                  New glasses perhaps?
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                  • pchang
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                    Yes, you should get some.

                • #11
                  The blue states would be communist so I don't think they can be allowed to separate anymore than the confederate states.
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                  • #12
                    Well you put your hand on and interesting issue Kid, as you so often do. Blue States would have a side issue between the commies and the moderates. The Red States, not so much. Few citizens support establishment Repugs, Trump has taken over the citizenry.
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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by Lancer View Post
                      Well you put your hand on and interesting issue Kid, as you so often do. Blue States would have a side issue between the commies and the moderates. The Red States, not so much. Few citizens support establishment Repugs, Trump has taken over the citizenry.
                      Commies wouldn't be allowed imo. No extremists of any type. We can't make the same mistakes. McCarthy was right. You have to take out the trash.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                      • #14
                        Yes we know you will start executing suspected Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Union leaders, Mexicans, black people...

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by giblets View Post
                          Yes we know you will start executing suspected Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Union leaders, Mexicans, black people...
                          No. They just can't pull their commie crap. That all.
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