Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Kidlicious]

No. Biden can tell them not to violate guidelines if he really thinks it's killing 10s of thousands of people.

[Ming]

Biden doesn't have any control over BLM rallies
Trump DOES HAVE CONTROL OF HIS OWN RALLIES... and we see how little he cares about his followers and all other Americans as he continues to hold super spreader events.

[Kidlicious]

Gee... no comment on the actual point that Trump doesn't give a damn about his supporters and doesn't follow the BASIC safety rules recommended by the WHO.
And as far as nobody liking him, the polls seem to disagree with you.

As far as I'm concerned BLM rallies are Democrat rallies. They don't like Biden, but they help Democrats. And they don't follow guidelines.

[Ming]

You're just jealous because Biden has like 8 people at his rallies, and that's not because of the pandemic. It's because nobody likes him.

Gee... no comment on the actual point that Trump doesn't give a damn about his supporters and doesn't follow the BASIC safety rules recommended by the WHO.
And as far as nobody liking him, the polls seem to disagree with you.

[Kidlicious]

You're just jealous because Biden has like 8 people at his rallies, and that's not because of the pandemic. It's because nobody likes him.

[Ming]

And how did the Rose Garden SC event go... just another super spreader event brought to you by Trump.

If you want to avoid lock downs as the final option, you need to have some common sense. Trump doesn't support any of them. As you can see in the picture at one of him most recent spreader events after his infection, he doesn't give a damn about proper common sense precautions, or his followers.
It's interesting that now the WH has all these safety procedures in place to protect his staff, but he won't even bother to enforce simple face mask wearing at his rallies... Must suck to be a Trump Supporter.

[Kidlicious]

I think you missed it... They actually said it should be the last resort and should be avoided.
But they also said that contact tracing, testing, social distancing, wearing face masks and washing hands was the best way to slow the disease down... None of which Trump seems to support... You have to do one or the other, and Trump doesn't want to do either.

Blah, blah, blah.

You aren't making any sense. Trump rallies did not result in massive deaths. That's horse****.

[Kidlicious]

You know which places had a LOT of travelers from China? Hong Kong and Taiwan. Try comparing their numbers to the USA.

Hong Kong is part of China. Taiwan did a great job and tried to warn the world that China and the WHO were lying, but they got shut down.

[Ming]

I think you missed it. The W.H.O. has condemned shutdowns.

I think you missed it... They actually said it should be the last resort and should be avoided.
But they also said that contact tracing, testing, social distancing, wearing face masks and washing hands was the best way to slow the disease down... None of which Trump seems to support... You have to do one or the other, and Trump doesn't want to do either.

[pchang]

There's many factors to consider. We had more people traveling from China, so did Italy and Belgium. You can't compare us to other countries that didn't have a lot of travel from China.

But I'm not saying we did good, far from it. We should never have trusted China.

You know which places had a LOT of travelers from China? Hong Kong and Taiwan. Try comparing their numbers to the USA.

[Kidlicious]

Italy got hit hard a week earlier, maybe.

[Kidlicious]

I have evidence that they got hit harder in February and March and April. And then acted seriously in March. We are still not acting seriously today, Trump was encouraging states not to close down into April and encouraged opening before practices had been developed to mitigate the virus. Then he discouraged, and continues to discourage, practices that are proven to mitigate the virus (so the economy could open).

He has chosen the worse path possible, not even one that is productive for the Right or his political ambitions.

JM
(some data on states https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ronavirus-map/ )
(world wide https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...emic-guide-box )

I think you missed it. The W.H.O. has condemned shutdowns.

[Jon Miller]

Do you have any evidence that they got more travel?

I have evidence that they got hit harder in February and March and April. And then acted seriously in March. We are still not acting seriously today, Trump was encouraging states not to close down into April and encouraged opening before practices had been developed to mitigate the virus. Then he discouraged, and continues to discourage, practices that are proven to mitigate the virus (so the economy could open).

He has chosen the worse path possible, not even one that is productive for the Right or his political ambitions.

JM
(some data on states https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ronavirus-map/ )
(world wide https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...emic-guide-box )

[Kidlicious]

Do you have any evidence that they got more travel?

[Jon Miller]

We weren't hit hard, compared to Belgium or Italy in the first couple of months (after China). We could have responded better then

e should be faulted for missing out when China was hit, but many countries should be faulted for that. After is what is egregious.

JM