go green, do it, i dare you

[I AM I AM I AM MOBIUS]

From 1901 to 2001, China's forests were a small carbon source of 3.32 Pg C, about 32.9±22.3 Tg C yr⁻¹.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301479706002994?via%3Dihub

The study authors estimate that the world’s tropical forests release approximately 425 million tonnes of carbon annually, equivalent to roughly 5% of the globe’s annual fossil-fuel emissions,

https://www.nature.com/news/tropical-forests-may-be-carbon-sources-not-sinks-1.22692

http://wbpaley.com/classes/Columbia/COMS_E6174_Spring05/assignments/hw6/mfs99/

referenced for sim earth climate model
being better than jobber losers
tenured morons
ta's
doing readings over decades
with god knows how many different kinds of gadgets
in a reality of uncertainty principle

what fraudery

[I AM I AM I AM MOBIUS]

[I AM I AM I AM MOBIUS]

i couldn't make the url turn off 'formating

[I AM I AM I AM MOBIUS]

Mold Produces Carbon Dioxide (CO2) One of the major symptoms of mold exposure is the poisoning of the body and air by carbon dioxide (CO2) that is released by mold (fungal) spores as it consumes organic matter. ... You see, molds are not like other plants that absorb carbon dioxide and release oxygen.

Mold Produces Carbon Dioxide (CO2) | Mold Safe Solutions

https://moldsafesolutions.com/carbon-dioxide-2/

what color is mold, sometimes

[I AM I AM I AM MOBIUS]

what might grow in the bottom of a forest, since it's humidyer and darker, than the tree tops

[I AM I AM I AM MOBIUS]

'plant trees
be sure to drive there
after the climte rally
fruds

[Aeson]

Taking a hectare of land which is barren and turning it to a forest sequesters from 200 (tropical) up to 750 (temperate) metric tonnes of carbon. The sum total increase in carbon in the atmosphere since industrial times is around 1 trillion metric tonnes. So if we reforest 5 billion hectares of land we can sequester all of that. (Incidentally, the world's agricultural lands = 5 billion hectares.)

If an American emits 16.5 metric tonnes of carbon dioxide (equivalent) per year that's about 4.5 metric tonnes of carbon. So in a 75 year lifespan an American would expect to emit 337.5 metric tonnes of carbon. Reforest 1.5 hectares and you're carbon neutral.

This is still conservative because the ocean will sequester a good share of carbon (though it's better to not rely on it to do so), and there are ways to increase the max sequestration via a forest, as well as to decrease carbon footprint in the process. If you manage that forest to produce your food you reduce your footprint further. If you manage it to produce your housing, furniture, etc you reduce your footprint even further. You can do so not just for yourself, but per hectare for 10 or more people, reducing their footprint. Well managed tree lots can sequester about 3.5x as much carbon due to opening up more room for new growth by harvesting wood and turning it to durable goods. Well managed food forests can do similar in regards to carbon sequestration, and can feed 50 or more people at the same time. Adding in biochar creation can extend the sequestration by about as much as we want. (We probably don't want to do much of that though. It's hard to release that carbon again.)

[The Mad Monk]

You see, molds are not like other plants

More to the point, molds are not plants.

[Berzerker]

I heard recently planting a trillion trees would eat up co2 enough to stave off warming

[Aeson]

It is refreshing that at least in one case academia has somewhat come around to partially accept that trees are the answer. Their suggestion though wouldn’t be enough, and they admit it (“if emissions aren’t reduced it won’t matter”). They are talking about 900 million hectares, avoiding all agricultural land.

5 billion hectares of food forests can do it, even without lowering emissions. It will help in a great deal of other ways as well.

[Berzerker]

There is a theory the little ice age (~1350-1850) was helped when the plague killed people off in the mid 1350s letting forests reclaim farmlands. It would be interesting to see research on how many trees that took. I read another theory that said we've been warming the planet most of the Holocene as farming and population growth released stored up co2 by replacing trees with crops.

[Dinner]

I heard recently planting a trillion trees would eat up co2 enough to stave off warming

Short of a massive campaign to make the Sahara turn green where do you put a trillion trees? Especially since all trees aren’t equal and trees don’t take up as much as we thought in the past. Also, the quote figures for carbon removal are over the life time of the planted trees which might be 200 years and so would take far longer than many think.

The truth is we need far more, far faster than just planting trees. We need far more than the green nuts who only support wind and solar. We need all of the above including a 3/4ths reduction in fossil fuels globally, a massive nuclear power and hydro power campaign, complete switching to electric transportation, as well as carbon removal from the atmosphere via man made means on a massive scale. It is all of the above which is needed.

[Aeson]

The truth is we need far more, far faster than just planting trees.

That is the problem with that study, they still are stuck in the same mindset. Where do we find the room? They identified 900 million hectares suitable for (relatively easy) reforestation that aren't currently in use for agriculture. At a general woodlot density of 1100 trees per hectare that's the trillion. But not enough, as they admit.

The room is there, we just need to update our agricultural systems from annuals to perrenials and tree crops. 5 billion hectares of food forest can easily sequester all the carbon increase in the atmosphere since the industrial revolution, and can scale as much as we want it to (via wood for durable goods and/or biochar)

[Dinner]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/21/carbon-engineering-co2-capture-backed-by-bill-gates-oil-companies.html

That is some great stuff.

[Aeson]

It's a great distraction from the real solution.