Syriza

[Bereta_Eder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZeziqimUfs

for. the. win.

[Dinner]

So what is their fundamental position on the debt and tax issue? Is it still unrealistic or have they moderated some what?

[Bereta_Eder]

They have completely obliterated the right wing. About the debt, even the IMF admitted it frecked up. The delay of the restreucturing was done to save french and german banks not to help the Greek poeple. On taxes, they use a social formule which has consolidated society. It is fair and just. But most importantly they are capable. Far more than the right wing.

[Bereta_Eder]

You understand that the debt wouldn;t have accumulated if we were not in the eurozone. You understand that french and german banks too k advantage of implicit guarantees. You understand Syriza managed to one hand becaome the most european left wing supporter of the union and on the other consolidate and pacify greek society, reversing regressinve right wing policies american style of no health care and turning Greece again to the path of Europe, and not far west.

[Bereta_Eder]

Your "reality" of debt and tax issue is frecked and shoved to the curb to die.

[Bereta_Eder]

I don't think it's breathing any more

[Bereta_Eder]

Syriza. Left wing. For the many.

Free. Uncorrupted. Frecking dinner, bankers and the right wing since 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k44Onjaxcww

[Bereta_Eder]

Do you want to be a thirld world american the way dinner prophesizes? Getting killed by "minorities" in your ghetos, with no health care?

Or do you want to trent in the safe world of Europe of justice social security socialism and democracy.

Do you want to live in the wild west or in civilzied Greece?


Do you want progress or regression.
Do you want the fascists or the democrats?
Do you want hope or hate

[Bereta_Eder]

Join the coalition of the capables.
You're welcome

[Dinner]

They have completely obliterated the right wing. About the debt, even the IMF admitted it frecked up. The delay of the restreucturing was done to save french and german banks not to help the Greek poeple. On taxes, they use a social formule which has consolidated society. It is fair and just. But most importantly they are capable. Far more than the right wing.

That is all nice and good but have they become realistic yet or not? Previously they had "let's pretend we can borrow more even though no one will lend to us and not actually make any efforts to come good on all of our previous bad debt" as their main position. Has that changed?

[pchang]

Perhaps a more informative analysis.

[Bereta_Eder]

Jesus, you're both clueless and helpless.

The debt was accumulated in a way that is only partially our fault.
The approach you said dinner was not realistic, since you were asking for a default.

When the debt is unsustainable it has to be treated that way, not destroy the eurozone, which was exactly what your proposition was.
let just the UK be destroyed thank you.

What is it in the words "restructuring" and "shared repsonsibility" that is beyond your comprehension?

Oh and varoufakis....


Jesus pchang, and to think I actually thought you and dinner once knew what you were talking about.
No wonder california is a basket case of repated bankrupcies with minds like that...

I shiver to think about your personal financial situations....

[Bereta_Eder]

Varoufakis has degraded himself to a funny court jester clown letting out funny farts jumping and spewing anti-EU retoric to placate fat anti-EU british clowns and asses.

I respect him of course. He was wrong and he played his part.

The mere fact that you quoted him as being "informatively analytical" speaks volumes of your own non existant credibility and general cluelesness.

I don't know what is like to live in violence infested poverty strikken, sea like sh!t california. I won't pretend to know. It's amazing how you think you can have an opinion about Greece. ANd quoting varoufakis ffs. Simply pathetic. I wonder how I could ever actually think you'd might know what you were talking about in the past.
Live and learn

[Bereta_Eder]

To ask for a debt that isn't our fault and can't be repaid to be repaid no matter what (sic) in order to help a couple of banks is the very essence of folly and detachment from reality. It's like you want to project some sort of shame instead of actually caring for the people. Simply pathetic, inhuman even. A mirror of your wanting society.
And to actually dare to threaten a bankrupcy which would have resulted in the massive collapse of the largest financial block in the world would be laughable if it wasn't another huge testament to your limited grasp of how the real world works.

You're the kid in the adult's room

[Bereta_Eder]

BTW varoufakis is projected in getting 1% in the european elections. The amount of trust people have in him takes my breath away. I browsedf through his article. Half of it is wrong the other half wishful thinking. Farage would love it though.