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[Bereta_Eder]

I'm reading the book by barrack obbama. It is staggering how much racism exists in the US. There is real HATRED between whites and blacks. We are talking visceral things, sick things. In texas getting attacked because you dared played with a black kid. Not letting them go to school up to the 1960s!!! Unbelievable! it seems the absolute worse racial relations exist in the US and South America. Both anglosaxon inceptions. It seems anglosaxony is all about free trade and shooting black people in the head

[Bereta_Eder]

Bebroe will be glad to note that I have refrained, in this instance, from using my gdogiven right to yell "NAZI", because apparently it is something else

[pchang]

Yes. Nazism is defined by a lot more than just racism.

[Proteus_MST]

Remember that in some states there were laws against marriages between blacks and whites till the 1970s.

And that at least till a few years ago (maybe even now, dunno) some schools had segregated proms.
Many of the whites who lived in the time of racial segregation by law and found it to be a good thing are still alive today ... and I am afraid, many of them taught their kids in those ways

[spambot]

If only we could be as enlightened and perfect as the Greeks.

[Dinner]

Remember that in some states there were laws against marriages between blacks and whites till the 1970s.

And that at least till a few years ago (maybe even now, dunno) some schools had segregated proms.
Many of the whites who lived in the time of racial segregation by law and found it to be a good thing are still alive today ... and I am afraid, many of them taught their kids in those ways

Lovings vs Virginia was 1967.

[Aeson]

Well that just makes everything right!

“Come visit America*... we’re 3 years less racist than claimed!”


*As long as you’re not one of those turd world dweller who want to work.

[Bereta_Eder]

Nazism is defined by a lot more than just racism.

Stratification of races. An hierarchy of races which is the american model. It's the same thing. I was watching african elections (because I'm multidimensional like that) and what strikes me is the simplicity of arguments. "Candidat Xis dedicated to countr's X's wellbeing, strngh, education" WTF? it's almost as stupid as american's fear of socialism, or europe's stupid nationalism. The blacks who are growing up in the USor south africa know full well that the anglosaxon (or other) legacy has them living in another man's world. Frightening. That's why africa should rise up

[pchang]

So you are discounting the whole authoritarian thing and the part about government driving the economy?

[Bereta_Eder]

there are shining examples of socialist revolutionaries, protagonists of democracy that were fought against by the CIA and the european colonial power of occasion. The little kids know their names but not what they have done. They keep entire peoples in ignorance becuase they fear that they might take example of what their forefathers did and do the same. It's the same in the US and in europe. Although in the later if nazism is the defining aspect of the US, ignrance of africa and nationalism of europe, the lattest is the only one that holds a bit of water because there were tons of blood shed to become nations and to keep being nations. Ok, in africa too.

[Bereta_Eder]

If only we could be as enlightened and perfect as the Greeks.

I'm fascinated by the different paradigms. Like "Antiracism" policies. We didn;t enslave, kill, rape black people. Americans and europeans did. An antiracist campaign should not be based on another man's paradigm. Blacks don;t viscerally hate our guts. We did not rape their womne, killed their children, enslaved and tortures them. there is no ill will and will not be an ill will between these two races. The nazi white america (and whatever european colonial powers) is unapplicable and redudnent. OTOH it's fascinating to listen about this strange foreign FUBAR

[Dinner]

Greeks had lots of slaves in the old days.

[rah]

I chalk it up to lack of recent opportunities.

[Bereta_Eder]

rah was always the kind one. I remember once he had to ban me (years years ago). Ming didn't break a sweat when banning me (he was always warning and warning me of course). But when the time came BAM YOU're OFF to MINGAPULCO Rah was more kind Even when even me had realized I crossed the line, he still wouln't let himself ban me easily. He is the more "sensitive" of the two brothers I think

[Bereta_Eder]

So you are discounting the whole authoritarian thing and the part about government driving the economy?

fascism can exist and more often than not exists in completely libertarian economies. Actually the more libertarian the economy the more fascism/ authoritative the gov becomes in order to enforce what in fact is the povershment of the population. the US is prime example of that.

[Sava]

I'm fascinated by the different paradigms. Like "Antiracism" policies. We didn;t enslave, kill, rape black people. Americans and europeans did. An antiracist campaign should not be based on another man's paradigm. Blacks don;t viscerally hate our guts. We did not rape their womne, killed their children, enslaved and tortures them. there is no ill will and will not be an ill will between these two races. The nazi white america (and whatever european colonial powers) is unapplicable and redudnent. OTOH it's fascinating to listen about this strange foreign FUBAR

"the" blacks, FTFY

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