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  • Your diagnosis? (Dr. Lovely part infinity)

    I know. I've been to therapy, (psychotherapy) and on Monday, I will start to talk about this very topic. This is kind of an acid test, see how it goes. It's obvious, and I'm in the wrong, but for your benefit, it's got plenty of pervy things.

    So many of you are familiar with the somewhat strange relationship I had with Dr. Lovely. She used to make me feel excellent, and a minute after, absolutely horrible. She knew exactly what to say to me to be warm, and exactly what to say or do to make me feel depressed in an instant. We dated for almost a year, and then she dumped me. There were lots of good things about her, and is, except her personality (I think). I was feeling extremely lonely, and we remained friends. I had nothing else to do. Besides I felt really depressed. There were moments when I thought she was the one; exciting, beautiful, intelligent, funny, and very erotic in the not so conventional ways.

    So, as I started to have more problems with loneliness, I decided to do the unthinkable, and be more open with her. I said I am being sexually frustrated, as in not feeling to have any, so she gleamed and suggested we can continue to do all the things we used to. I thought about it for a microsecond and said "sure". Options were to not have any. I mean I was not up to seeing anyone at that point. I figured I'd have fun with her, and I'd find someone to date and we'd stop the fun part and remain friends if possible. Drop the benefits part. Practical, yes?

    She let me know she has met 2 women at a party she plays with. OK, cool. None of my business. Then, she was open about it that one of them has a crush on her. And I saw it. I've met her once. She is obviously INTO Dr. Lovely. Also they are all polyamorous, and she was well aware that I am her ex BF and we have not changed things, except we are both single now, as the relationship won't work. And she is bi-sexual and likes men so... I felt a bit bad at that point. I bit like a cheater. She assured me they are just playing, and that the one with crush on her is OK with it, as they're all polys. Perhaps to my mistake and stupidity, I was only thinking "cool". The fact that they were 3 women made it easier for me. Having lesbian sex, and knowing Dr. Lovely is not looking to have a _real_ relationship with a woman but more like a group of admirers, or people to have sex with, I figured if she gets into her more, or vice versa, we'll end our fun. Simple, yes?

    Turns out her GF is actually a former male, having her bits cut off. At this point I am not so sure anymore. I am not totally convinced that a man who cuts his bits off to be a female is totally free of mental issues. Not judging here, but there is a high likelihood. The point being, I was beginning to think she is but a novelty to her. Then, we were supposed to hang out (no sex) and she cancelled on me twice in a row, because she was taking care of her flue ridden GF. And that she (former he) was with her for the week. I thought wow, she must really like her, the longest she ever was with me was 4 days in a row because we were abroad. Other than that? Rarely. Once, a full weekend. A whole week? She must be really into her. At this point, I was actually happy for her.

    I was supposed to meet her tomorrow, and she messaged me today about it, then asked what I am doing tonight. I said not sure yet, any ideas? She replied no, just curious. Classic move, used to it, and never tells me if she is doing something. Information always 1-way. Like intelligence apparatus. We ask you, you tell us, we will not reciprocate.

    Then, I came back to the city and get a surprise call from her "where you're at honey?", and she's like oh, I'm right there, wanna come by and we'll go to the sex store to get some supplies for tomorrow's play. I thought sure, why not. On the way, she suddenly tells me, "so I went on a date today, actually a second date". OK... confusing. Then she wanted to talk about it many times, decided not to. Then she said, "let's have a beer and I'll tell you about the good news". Then, a minute later she said she wants to go home. And off she went. Classic; yes, no, yes, no.

    So, I was more confused as in did she not really like her current GF? Also, does she think this new guy is polyamorous or not? If not, is she _really_ willing to give up her way of life? And even so, why did she feel that she needs to tell me this? She doesn't tell any other things ever? Trying to make me feel jealous? The way I see it, she is trying to create a race condition, making us all feel ****ty, while feeling herself superior. This would be my analysis. Now, I feel bad about this all. I feel most bad for her current GF. Also, I am beginning to think what happened while we were dating? If I was honest to myself, I'd realise most of her previous stories were all lies, about her husband cheating on her all the time and being violent. I see this in her. Her husband got severely depressed, and I understand, if he fell in love with her, and she did this kind of stuff? Yeah, it would drive anyone insane. The thing that irritates me the most is the back and forth. It is so literal, she can want something now, and decide against it the very next moment. It is chaotic beyond reason. I feel a bit ashamed myself as well. I am single, I should just quit this whole thing and find myself a stable partner. Wish her good luck. I don't know how to bring this up with my therapist. It's all about kinky sex and polyamorous crap. While some of it is exciting, a lot of it is bad, emotionally. I can see it working, but seeing how her current GF wants to have a relationship, we are nothing but cogs in her game, where she clearly wants to punch us and pull us back. Maybe I'll just get one for the road tomorrow and call it quits after? I mean, I don't want to be rude or anything.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

  • #2
    Also, how do you date someone, and then go to a sex store with your ex bf? A bit baffling. I realise it must've happened while we dated. As part of this machinery of strange, I want to remove myself from it. But I need help. I have this weird crush on her, that refuses to die.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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    • #3
      Pekka, it's penis time.

      You are the Supercitizen with a Supercitizen's penis. It demands worship and praise from all mortal humans. All you have to do it whip it out, and watch the magic occur.

      Trust me Pekka. All my advice has worked for you so far.
      The Wizard of AAHZ

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      • #4
        Yeah, just reading that makes me want to curl into a ball. Sex isn't good enough to put up with all that.
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        "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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        • #5
          It's not even about the sex itself. I think she really gets off on making people feel like crap. I've had several instances of this personally.

          First, she was talking about wanting to go on a date with others while we were going out, from like a couple of months in. Maybe this is where she thought she'd get away with it, and seeing how I react.

          Second, she made a huge point, underlining she was cheated on, and does not want sex with people she does not like. And that she has had sex after her divorce with only 3 people, who she never wanted to see again afterwards. I am beginning to doubt the truthfulness of this, not the least because later it changed to 4. After we had sex, as GF and BF, she absolutely had to talk about her previous sex partners. I just didn't care. What is in the past, is in the past, right? Red flags were plenty and all over, I chose to ignore them due to loneliness. I figured if she is dating others, sure, before we were officially BF/GF.

          Once, I said to her, after she pulled her crap again and was quite pleased at herself, I checked her on it. I said how I don't like it when she makes promises and cancels on it the minute before. It is disappointing and disrespectful. She said it's a cultural thing. (I beg to differ). But when I specifically said how I don't like when she's hot and cold, hot and cold, back and forth all the time, her pupils went small and she looked like a deer in the headlights and wanted to escape, physically. Later on, she said "If this does not work out, I don't think we can ever be friends". l knew I had her with the hot/cold thing, and I specifically used that term because she knew what it means. Total panic.I felt pissed off, finally grew some self respect to her ****.

          Now? I think I just wanted some friendship and maybe some sex. So it has no direct affect on me, but I feel kind of bad for her GF. And why not the new guy as well. They've no idea what they're getting into. I made tons of posts about her when we were going out. Every single one said, get out now. And you were all right. I feel embarrassed to take this topic to the therapist, but I must.

          To be honest, I am not even sure if she is actually dating a new man or not. Does not really matter. Come from a date, go out with me to a sex store and then go straight to your GF is not very excellent. Then spend the day with her, come to me for play, go back to her. I think she, or all of us, have a problem. And we need to stop it. As a cog, I still feel she is the main culprit. She did say she "only owns the two of you", meaning me and her GF.

          In da butt.
          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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          • #6
            I think at some point you turned into Bizarro-Alby, where your relationships rocket into sexytimes at light speed, but only when they obviously shouldn't. Then you ask us what to do, and ignore our frantic "RUN AWAY BEFORE THIS INVOLVES KNIVES."
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            • #7
              Dude. Pure and simple. Stop this. Move on.

              We can keep on telling you this but it gets tiresome. If you want to suffer by all means continue, but stop *****ing about it.
              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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              • #8
                I'll spare you the details. Let's just say I went on a dinner with her. She's still a friend (I think, or lie ot myself). It was strange, fortunately, I feel no anxiety about her anymore. First, she opened up about the other two. So, her GF, since she was born a man, she does not have a penis and you know how that operation goes. So a problem, it gets old for her. She said repeatedly "i did not pick her, I would not pick her". As in she picked her, etc. THen next, about her new BF, how he must be a gay in denial, bad in bed. Terrible kisser, etc. And also wanted to have sex on a third date and half forced it. She consented, but it was bad, he was no good at it, and is either inexperienced or closeted homosexual.

                I let her rant and told hey, if he is gay adn in denial, so what? You like him for a reason. Have patience. As for her GF, the same story.

                It all seems very sexual, as in the partner must be superb in bed or she has no interest what so ever. I felt bad for the two; they are both into her, and she seems to play this merry-go-round with people. Then she told me her vision of a relationship she wants. I won't repeat it here, but let's just say it was so naive, I totally lost any interest. A vision only a child would come up with. Mentally child. The night was fun, but let's just say those discussions totally broke the spell. I reckon we can still interact, but any desires for a relationships are not really desires anymore. It used to hurt, I thought she was perfect. Perfect, if she only was more feeling and emotionally open. Now I know, she does not have a damn clue. And somehow I feel extremely normal. You can't treat others like that, or realistically assume that you can just acquire people, charm them, let them on and discard them at any time and feel absolutely no remorse, or empathy toward them.

                I've never seen such play. It is quite disgusting and I feel bad for the people who had to endure this, and a bit for her as well. Not sure if she realises the chaos and volatility around her, and that she causes a great deal of it.

                edit: for the record, I dated her for 6 months before we had sex. It was bizarro before that and yes, I knew better. The therapy part deals exactly with this. I know better, yet I don't follow my own advice, when I know it'll go to hell should I continue. Basically, it's extremely difficult for me to say no. Not to sex, but to people I want to please.
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                • #9
                  You have a real talent for meeting crazy women. Or maybe this is just how they are in Finland?
                  “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                  ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                  • #10
                    There are basically two possibilities here:

                    1. Finland has an extremely high frequency of female mental disorders.
                    2. Pekka is (deliberately or not) pursuing strategies which increase his chances of attracting or interacting with mentally abnormal women.

                    These are not mutually exclusive, but 2 seems increasingly more probable.
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                    Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                    • #11
                      Pekka is good at picking damaged women. Maybe he is Captain Save A Ho. Since he seems mostly attracted to broken women I would suggest trying to find a woman you aren't super attracted to right off the bat. The reason is your compus is ****ed up, you pick bad people, so finding one who is different from what usually attracts you might actually result in a good pick. The relationship will grow in time and then you will have a good relationship with a fully functioning woman.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        Let's not forget that Pekka was going through a significant brain cancer scare. Plus there was the dissolution of the first marriage.
                        "Until we're 90" is unlikely to play a big role in your dating strategies under those conditions.
                        Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                        RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                        • #13
                          My advice is still the best.
                          The Wizard of AAHZ

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                          • #14
                            Totally agree.
                            Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                            RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                            • #15
                              I sort of agree with Dinner. I suffer from KiSA syndrome too. Hard to get on top​ of, but recognising a problem is half way to solving it.

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