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  • What are the early symptoms of burn out?

    Have you ever burned out?

    How do you know it's coming and how serious have you gotten it? How to avoid it?

    Been pushing too hard for too long. Every other week I am in another country, doing very demanding work, and then the rest of the time at the office in Helsinki, where the work is a lot easier but sucks, as in the talent is less and too many meetings.

    When in Helsinki, I have the kids. So I am waking up to the reality that I have 0 days of "me time". I was able to do this for 2 months, but now that I my son has been acting up a bit, I feel tired beyond belief and I cannot function properly. Irritated, tired, I want to sleep all the time, not alert, not motivated, fairly negative at all times with very few expections. Feel like only an inch away, the wrong incident, and I could just blow out. Meaning I'll start shouting and screaming in public.

    Tiredness does not help when two active kids need attention and I have too little to give. They've been running around the house and fihgting the whole day. My son gets up at 2am every night and cries for nightmares. So I get up. Then he wakes up at 5am for poo, and I need to wipe his butt. And then I need to get up at 6am for work. Every night. There is no time for rest. Only taking care of kids, and I need to do every single task there is, clean the house. The only time I have to read a book, which is mandatory to keep my sanity, is in public transportation, which is of course filled with people who talk loudly, or are on the phone. The day comes when I will shout at them to stfu. Which is unreasonable.

    I cannot survive with the rate that I'm going with. Things at work suck, *******s are failing upwards while people who actually do everything keep their mouths shut. I have not done anything productive at the office for a few weeks now. It seems to be enough to show up and sit. Yet it makes the tiredness worse. Our offices is a huge open office, and I hate every single bit of it. These days I've declined all meetings, and I do not care. I read only few emails of the tens (sometimes a hundred or so) because people seem to think sending a lot of emails is actually productive. I do security, and our flaws are elsewhere. I just keep on the basic stuff, while these good-for-nothing ***** keep on making powerpoints about next generation what ever they read on the latest Gartner. I've stopped reading the ppt's, too. And I could care less what the market analysts say about product x. I have not send a single report the whole year and I will finish the year as such. And somehow I don't have a holiday break for Christmas. I've plenty of vacation days, and seemingly no time to have them.

    I think I need a month to recover. Do absolutely nothing but go outdoors, sleep, read, and shut my phone off. These extoverted *******s with their calendars destroy the good world of others. I hope they choke on their ties. I strongly believe 25 % of the people do 100 % of the work. 25 % pretend to do work but avoid it, and the rest are hindering the real work getting done.

    I've discussed this with work place therapist who said it sounds like what many others are saying to her as well, and that the atmosphere is really poor. I know it is. It's Game of Thrones where all the unqualified people try to get power to seem relevant.

    In summary: I can't sleep, and I can't take my sleep meds due to my son acting up, and so I am comatozed, and they both make a lot of noise at the same time, which would tax anyone. Then I go to the huge open office where adults do the same. Except the amount of people talking at the same time goes up to a 100 at my floor. My head is about to explode, I need quiteness and none is available. Irritated with a head ache 24/7. The rest of the time I spend on another country, on my way there our back, with talented people and real things happening, where my work is actually directly applied and appreciated by people who are on another scale of security. Yet it means that I have 0 days or hours where I can be by myself or... see friends for example. The last time I saw a friend was in October. Had few dates after that, one was good, hope to meet her again soon, but other than that. And now I have to run to teh shower so we can still get a bday present for my daughter's friend. They're antsy, and a fight is about to start. No doubt they will both argue the whole way tehre and back, and I'll be reffing it from the driver's seat.

    I'm afraid I am going to hit rock bottom due to the environments loudness and light pollution, and I've no idea when I get re-charged. And yes, the Christmas is coming too and not looking fwd to it. I wish I could just sleep. That's my only true bday wish. Along with staying healthy of course. Other than that, it seems like I am not cut out to work 24/7. I am so tired, that I try not to cry when the kids are here. I mean it. I am ****ing tired.
    Last edited by Pekka; December 18, 2016, 10:06.
    In da butt.
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  • #2
    Christmas is horrible now, because people are horrible. Everyone is rude to one another. Our world is turning to ****. This is progress?

    Only faith keeps me going at this point.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • #3
      I've plenty of vacation days, and seemingly no time to have them
      Take them anyway. If they try and tell you that you can't, demand a firm schedule for when you can. Given your health issues, if you're getting towards burn-out, don't **** around, put yourself and your kids first. It's too easy to get sucked into the echo chamber where a company actually matters more than real life issues, and its grossly toxic, unrealistic and terrible for your wellbeing.

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      • #4
        posting on apolyton

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        • #5
          I think you have gone beyond the early symptoms. Early is when you start not to care about what other people at work think of your work. You are solidly at not caring.
          “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

          ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pchang View Post
            I think you have gone beyond the early symptoms. Early is when you start not to care about what other people at work think of your work. You are solidly at not caring.
            Yes... Tell tale was overdoing things to fix them... a sign of stress for me... as in not instructing how to do it but just pushing other aside and doing it myself (well they had years to do it and failed).

            I did quite a few things in a row, and all the credits for the work were taken by others. I've no insentive to do better than my own ethical professionality. The reason I fixed some issues myself was because the other ways failed. I had no permission to fix. But it was broken and not secure at all. I've been getting away with this for 5 years now. It's been frustrating. Not because no recognition ever came from it, but now that they have realised it all, the price is more work and no insentive. A direct example: so we built this log management. It is simple, but ours is not product or tool driven. it is very secure. We've had to take down old systems and expensive products because of it. I am needed elsewhere so I could only give it a start, but now I somehow deal with difficult questions all the time. The model is simple, yet the team doing it now is making all the old mistakes so it's pretty much repeating itself. It is going to fail. I am trying to steer it as best as I can. I've no time to do it, yet I am the responsible person. I have laid out the action plan, which is very very simple. It involves setting up certain kinds of servers and using certain protocols only.

            So, now there are only new issues, that comes from application logs. Well wonder that, perhaps the solution is in the source, how applications log. You do not fix it on the way, except for a short while. It is not a solution. So now, I am supposed to fix the unfixable. I do not care anymore. This was the first thing to do a long time ago. You do not fix logging by building an infrastructure, or deploying bunch of tools, you start from understanding your assets, what you should be logging. If you do not know what it is, then you must find out or you'll end up with lots of logs that you don't need or understand. Then you get bunch of techies to solve the technical issues along the way.

            But no.

            I feel liek I am dealing with people who are really supposed to be doing something else. So give that I have gigantic things of this magnitude multiplied few times over, and then small stuff that is my actual daily job, and a whole lot of bureaucracy and no insentives. My input has stopped making a difference at this point.
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #7
              Listen to Kentonio. Or some similar variation. No one is going to watch out for you. You must do it yourself.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rah View Post
                Listen to Kentonio. Or some similar variation. No one is going to watch out for you. You must do it yourself.
                I am happy to say that I've grown balls to say no. And also knowing to importance of putting ones own health first. I cannot father the kids well enough, give them attention that they need if I am too tired. The kids are #1.

                And no one will look after me unless I do it. I am single, and everyone has their own problems already. It's not their fault. Our team is crackling apart, so it's not just me. I sent an email yesterday to the nurse and just mentioning the word burn out got a reply "stay out of the office today, come for an appointment tomorrow". So that is what I will do.
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                • #9
                  grandkids. yeah, it cost $$ after that

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