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Send in a robot or more human beings, against someone who had time to set up kill zones and possibly IEDs. It doesn't seem "fair", but it really is.
It's not about fair, it's about normalizing the militarization of the police. If you have some crazy extreme situation where something like this has to be done, call in the special forces like we did with the Iranian embassy siege.
I think there way he was subdued was brilliant.
Why risk more lives?
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Did you think the 1985 Philadelphia police bomb action was 'brilliant'? We're in genuine slippery slope territory here.
They are extremely different situations and actions. And there is no slippery slope. It's not even increased militarisation of the police, since police forces have bomb squads (robots/explosives/explosive experts) already and for good reason.
They are extremely different situations and actions. And there is no slippery slope. It's not even increased militarisation of the police, since police forces have bomb squads (robots/explosives/explosive experts) already and for good reason.
Of course its a slippery slope, if the police convince themselves that robots with bombs is a much safer way of eliminating armed suspects than SWAT teams for instance, they'll start using it a lot more. At some point they'll ended up ****ing up and killing a family or group of kids because a bomb does more damage than they expected, or because they didn't realize they were there. If you doubt that, then consider how many times SWAT has ****ed up. The time they threw a flash bang into a kids cot is particularly memorable.
Send in a robot or more human beings, against someone who had time to set up kill zones and possibly IEDs. It doesn't seem "fair", but it really is.
Hey, I used a . I am totally in favor of terrifying dystopic futures. My thing is this: if sending in a robot with a bomb is that easy, wouldn't it have been just as easy to send in a robot with a flash bang or tear gas or some other non-lethal, but incapacitating device? The answer may be no, but I think it's very much worth it to make the effort.
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"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Of course its a slippery slope, if the police convince themselves that robots with bombs is a much safer way of eliminating armed suspects than SWAT teams for instance, they'll start using it a lot more. At some point they'll ended up ****ing up and killing a family or group of kids because a bomb does more damage than they expected, or because they didn't realize they were there. If you doubt that, then consider how many times SWAT has ****ed up. The time they threw a flash bang into a kids cot is particularly memorable.
As you noted, police can make mistakes without the assistance of robots. While you could argue that police may be prone to misuse the power since they aren't in harms way, that presupposes that most police officers are only not killing innocents because they fear for their own safety while doing so. That's clearly absurd. The vast majority of police officers are out there every day risking their lives to help protect their communities. Without the adrenaline rush of being in a life or death situation, police officers are much more likely to maintain their composure and make proper decisions. Using robots can allow police officers to keep themselves out of those situations, where their judgment and intent is more likely to prevail over adrenaline and instincts.
Of course its a slippery slope, if the police convince themselves that robots with bombs is a much safer way of eliminating armed suspects than SWAT teams for instance, they'll start using it a lot more. At some point they'll ended up ****ing up and killing a family or group of kids because a bomb does more damage than they expected, or because they didn't realize they were there. If you doubt that, then consider how many times SWAT has ****ed up. The time they threw a flash bang into a kids cot is particularly memorable.
SWAT teams do that because they risk getting shot/stabbed/blown up themselves; using robots remove that risk making it less, not more likely that an adrenaline-pumped human will make that kind of mistake, assuming they have time to plan, which brings us to...
Hey, I used a . I am totally in favor of terrifying dystopic futures. My thing is this: if sending in a robot with a bomb is that easy, wouldn't it have been just as easy to send in a robot with a flash bang or tear gas or some other non-lethal, but incapacitating device? The answer may be no, but I think it's very much worth it to make the effort.
A valid point, but I think we should consider that this is new to the police too, and they were improvising. I would expect non-lethal methods to be used in the future.
No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.
Hey, I used a . I am totally in favor of terrifying dystopic futures. My thing is this: if sending in a robot with a bomb is that easy, wouldn't it have been just as easy to send in a robot with a flash bang or tear gas or some other non-lethal, but incapacitating device? The answer may be no, but I think it's very much worth it to make the effort.
It would only be terrifying if it were a clown robot that teases it's victims.
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