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  • Meanwhile, what have our allies been up to?

    The war the world forgot.


    The BBC's Gabriel Gatehouse has just returned from Yemen, where he had rare access to the scale of the humanitarian crisis caused by what some are calling the "forgotten war".

    The bombing campaign in the skies over Yemen is in its sixth month now. Every day, residents of the capital, Sanaa, listen nervously for the rumble of jets. They know what will follow: a flash in the sky, a sickening pause, then the thud and boom of explosions as the missiles strike.

    The aim of the Saudi-led coalition is to oust Houthi rebels from the city. The Houthis took Sanaa last year, with the help of forces loyal to Yemen's ousted former president Ali Abdullah Saleh and the support of Iran.

    In response, Saudi Arabia, Iran's regional rival, has imposed a blockade on the north of the country, controlling what comes in by land, sea and air.

    "Yemen is one of the world's worst crises," says Tariq Riebl, head of programmes in Yemen for the charity Oxfam.
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    The airstrikes are backed by a resolution at the United Nations Security Council. But the UN's top humanitarian official in Yemen, Johannes van der Klaauw, says attacks on civilian infrastructure are violations of the laws of war.

    "Schools and hospitals, markets, enterprises and factories should not be stricken, should not be shelled. Even in warfare there are certain rules, and they are being violated in this conflict," he said.

    Since the conflict started, more than 2,000 civilians have been killed. Some are victims of months of vicious ground fighting between the two sides. Houthi soldiers, some of them no more than teenagers, are accused of firing heavy weapons in built-up areas.

    But it is the Saudis and their coalition partners, mainly Gulf Arab countries including the United Arab Emirates, who have overwhelming force.

    The coalition's efforts are supported by Britain and the United States. Both countries continue to sell arms to Saudi Arabia, and are providing the Saudi-led coalition with liaison officers and technical support.

    Oxfam, whose own warehouse in Yemen has been hit by an airstrike, says the UK could be in breach of domestic and international laws on the sales of arms.

    It's difficult to argue that a weapon sold to Saudi Arabia would not in some way be used in Yemen," says Mr Riebl.

    "Or if it's not used in Yemen it enables the country to use other weapons in Yemen."
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    The combined effects of intense ground fighting, airstrikes and the blockade are having a devastating effect on the country.

    A million and a half people have fled their homes, seeking shelter in makeshift camps. Half the population of Yemen doesn't know where the next meal will come from.


    However at home...

    Note how "unbiased" BBC titles the article as "unprecedented wave of executions", when in fact it is not just executions, it is beheadings.

    At least we get the article, so...


    Beheading with a sword is the most common form of execution.

    Executions are often carried out in public.

    Crimes that carry the death penalty include murder, adultery, treason, gay sex, drug offences, sorcery and witchcraft, and apostasy.

    Human rights activists say those accused often do not receive fair trials.

    The families of prisoners facing the death penalty are not always informed in advance of executions.

    The case of the young Shia protester, Ali al-Nimr, who has become a poster boy for those facing execution, has drawn appeals from world leaders for King Salman to show mercy and refuse to sign his death warrant.

    He was convicted of a string of offences, including attacking police with petrol bombs in anti-government protests in the east of the country when he was only 17 and still at school.

    His family says the confession he made was coerced and he signed it after being told he would then be released.


    While I would in no way suggest that we do to Saudis what has been done to Iraq, Libya and Syria, we should on the other hand

    *stop selling them weapons
    *stop participating in their initiatives to destabilize the countries around them (Yemen, Syria, Iran)
    *even threaten to stop buying oil (yeah right, as if that is ever going to happen) if they do not stop the support for ISIS and the war in Yemen.

    Another star for "stop demonizing other Middle Eastern dictators" in our own press, when we are in bed with the worst of them.
    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

  • #2
    even threaten to stop buying oil

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    • #3
      bombing the islamic state while at the same time supplying arms to the saudis about sums up our foreign policy.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #4
        Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
        Note how "unbiased" BBC titles the article as "unprecedented wave of executions", when in fact it is not just executions, it is beheadings.
        Granted that beheading is pretty gross, but when done correctly e.g. with a guillotine it's less likely to inflict pain than other forms of capital punishment such as lethal injection (especially with the untested drug cocktails now being used)
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        • #5
          Put that way, a bullet to the back of the head is even more painless. China FTW!
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #6
            Beheadings would probably be less messy if they cryogenically froze the victim beforehand

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
              Put that way, a bullet to the back of the head is even more painless. China FTW!
              Bullets to the head have a bad habit of being non-fatal (e.g. the bullet will do something bizarre like curve around the inside of the skull), but that's probably only something to consider when contemplating suicide - presumably an executioner would notice that something was amiss and fire a second bullet
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              • #8
                Sunni Vs Shi'a

                Basically the undercurrent of everything that is going on across the Middle East.

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                • #9
                  Iran and Saudi Arabia are having a proxy war but it doesn't really involve us.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    Yes it does.

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                    • #11
                      how can you possibly describe mere billions in arms sales as involvement?
                      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                      • #12
                        None of the middle east conflicts the US is involved in involve the US.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by loinburger View Post
                          Granted that beheading is pretty gross, but when done correctly e.g. with a guillotine it's less likely to inflict pain than other forms of capital punishment such as lethal injection (especially with the untested drug cocktails now being used)
                          Yeah, to be fair it was how France carried out capital punishment until something like the 1970's when they banned the death penalty.

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, we simple hanged people.

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                            • #15
                              you limey ****heads had your chance to run the world and look at the mess you made

                              **** off
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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