Afghanistan: US Airstrike Hits Kunduz Hospital

[The Mad Monk]

Gee guys, thanks for becoming so civil all of a sudden. Would someone care to pass the tea and scones?

[Sava]

Gee guys, thanks for becoming so civil all of a sudden. Would someone care to pass the tea and scones?

i can give you more rage if you want?

[Bereta_Eder]

There's so much suffering in the world.
If tea is the answer I'm willing to withstand constipation

[Proteus_MST]

my guess is that that doesn't apply if forces are responding to an attack in self defense

the scenario you describe is if the US forces initiated the attack

that's not what happened

I´d say the US forces attacked ...
whether the reason for it was a call for support by afghan forces or not doesn´t matter
(the US forces could well have said: Nope, this building is protected .. no air support)

Also the interesting question is, if the afghan forces could have withdrawn from the building complex without losses ...
if they could have done so, it was even m ore so an attack on the building.

(not to forget that it all rests on the claim that there were Taliban in the building ... which is declined by MSF).

IMHO it is only then no war crime, if the US military was too negligient to check the status of the building
(and therefore didn´t know that it was a protected building) ... in which case it would be gross incompetence from those involved

[Kidlicious]

THERE WAS ONLY THE ONE HOSPITAL DIP****.

/???

I would drink tea just yet. You might get pooo thrown in it.

[Sava]

I´d say the US forces attacked ...

You would. But the same rules of war you cite say otherwise.

IMHO

With respect, your opinion doesn't matter. Laws do.

[Proteus_MST]

You would. But the same rules of war you cite say otherwise.



With respect, your opinion doesn't matter. Laws do.

Well, that´s how I interpret the geneva conventions ... and I guess that´s the interpretation by MSF as well.

The big question is whether the US government and military sees it this way as well.

Considering past incidents (like the iranian flight) I´d assume that all persons involved will get a warning finger while saying, with a smile: "You bad bad boys", directly followed by awarding them all the congressional medal of honor.
(but, of course, past incidents were under republican rule ... maybe the democrats handle incidents like these with a little bit more seriousness)

[Sava]

Well, that´s how I interpret the geneva conventions

I'm more concerned with how such things are applied in the real world.

[Proteus_MST]

I'm more concerned with how such things are applied in the real world.

Probably as I described it ... by a pat in the back and awarding them all the CMH

[Apocalypse]

I am sure MSF is going to go with whatever will get them more donations. In the early reports they did not even deny that there were hostile forces attacking from he hospital, only that there were no reports of it.

[Sava]

by a pat in the back and awarding them all the CMH

why would they face a penalty?

seems everyone in question did their job

the only reason to reprimand, it seems, would be if the crew of the AC130 decided to disobey orders

[Sava]

and really Proteus, you've been nothing but wrong on this issue

that should be noted

[Proteus_MST]

and really Proteus, you've been nothing but wrong on this issue

that should be noted

Time will tell ...
but I am sure that, if yours, kids and apocs mindset (that the US military did nothing wrong) is shared by the military command (which I am afraid, it is), that I never will be near military operations of the US military ... not even if I am part of the blue or grey OPFOR ...
and if I am, I hope that I have a couple of MANPADs available, for the case the US military, for one reason or the other, decides to attack my homne or workplace

[Apocalypse]

Time will tell ...
but I am sure that, if yours, kids and apocs mindset (that the US military did nothing wrong) is shared by the military command (which I am afraid, it is), that I never will be near military operations of the US military ... not even if I am part of the blue or grey OPFOR ...
and if I am, I hope that I have a couple of MANPADs available, for the case the US military, for one reason or the other, decides to attack my homne or workplace

I've never said the US military did nothing wrong. I just said that there are possible scenario where they didn't do something illegal based on what the Afghans are claiming happened.

[Apocalypse]

MSF also has a reason to lie for positive publicity in order to get more donations because they need more money due to rises drug prices from the TPP.