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    65 percent of Republicans think the government poses an ‘immediate threat’ to them

    I've spent an inordinate time of late trying to understand the rise of Donald Trump and what it tells us about how Americans view politicians, politics and the state of the country more generally. I came across this chart, which was released recently by Gallup, and thought it told the "why" of Trump as well as anything I've seen.

    Half of the country believes that the federal government "poses an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens. HALF! The party breakdown is even more remarkable. Two-thirds (65 percent) of self-identified Republicans believe their government poses an immediate threat to their rights and freedoms. (Worth noting: Just 32 percent of Democrats feel that way.)

    That is a startling number -- and speaks not only to the massive disgust and disenchantment among Republicans toward the government, but also the urgency of the perceived threat that it poses. The idea of the government swooping in to restrict your rights is not an abstract discussion for many people -- especially those who identify as Republicans. It is a real and present danger.

    The chart above also suggests the idea of the government as an active threat to personal liberties is rapidly rising. A decade ago, only 37 percent of the public called the federal government an immediate threat, and as recently as 2003, only three in 10 people viewed the government that way. Explains Gallup head honcho Frank Newport: "Republican agreement with the 'immediate threat' statement has been higher during the Obama administration than was Democratic agreement during the Bush administration, thus accounting for the overall rise in agreement across all national adults."

    So, what, exactly, do people believe comprises the government's threat to them? Gallup asked that too -- and produced this chart of responses:

    The "too many laws" complaint is as old as time. The concerns about "violations of freedoms/civil liberties" seems directly tied to the revelations around the National Security Agency domestic spying program while "gun control/violating 2nd Amendment" is the likely offspring of President Obama's push for the stiffening of gun control laws in the wake of the Newtown massacre in late 2012.

    What you have at work is the usual contempt/concern about the federal government mixed with increased Republican worries about not just President Obama but the priorities he has pursued and will pursue before he leaves office.

    Trump speaks directly to those fears and that anxiety. Yes, he says, your worries about the direction of the country are warranted. It is going to hell in a handbasket. The people in charge are trying to fundamentally change what it means to be Americans right under our noses. And it goes without saying, the only way to address this creeping government state is to elect someone like Trump (okay, Trump himself) to bring things back to the "way it used to be."

    For those who roll their eyes about Trump -- and, to an only slightly lesser extent, Ben Carson -- you might be missing the boat on how your fellow Americans feel about their government. And, for those who laugh off the possibility of an "outsider" candidate being the Republican nominee, all you need to do is look at the Gallup chart above to see why you shouldn't.
    follow link for charts and stuff

    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    Half the country doesn't believe the govt is a threat to their rights and freedom? Definitely insane.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • #3
      Obama is going to declare martial law and cancel the next election

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      • #4
        If it's going to be another Clinton Bush affair, even I'd support that decision.

        It is embarrassing to be identified as a republican these days. But I fear that if I (and other less extreme party members) give up on the party, there will be no filter left and the lunatics will really be in charge. While we've seen many loons in the primary, they usually get weeded out eventually.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • #5
          The loons in the GOP have booted Boehner, and McConnell is in their crosshairs. So good luck with that.

          Regarding the OP, hell yes my rights have been abridged. In particular, the right to privacy is basically gone.
          OTOH, I now have the right to marry a dude (if I divorce my wife first). And someday, I may have the right to medical care.
          Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
          RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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          • #6
            We already lost our right to health care?
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #7
              Health Care isn't a 'right' in the US; and that is one of the problems.
              Founder of The Glory of War, CHAMPIONS OF APOLYTON!!!
              '92 & '96 Perot, '00 & '04 Bush, '08 & '12 Obama, '16 Clinton, '20 Biden, '24 Harris

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              • #8
                So you want a right to other people's property, but not your own?
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #9
                  If you have a right to something, it is your property, by definition.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by giblets View Post
                    If you have a right to something, it is your property, by definition.
                    There's something called inalienable rights
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #11
                      I don't think there such a thing as inalienable rights. Societies determine upon what rights people have using a variety of philosophical, cultural, religious, traditional, logic or data driven principles. In the absence of civilization, then it is might makes right.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by korn469 View Post
                        I don't think there such a thing as inalienable rights. Societies determine upon what rights people have using a variety of philosophical, cultural, religious, traditional, logic or data driven principles. In the absence of civilization, then it is might makes right.
                        Then might always makes right, especially the way you describe it. The reason that it has been argued that people have inalienable rights is because society doesn't treat individuals fairly when they aren't guaranteed their rights.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, like a women's right not to be raped.
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rah View Post
                            Yeah, like a women's right not to be raped.
                            Are you talking about Pakistan or something dude?
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #15
                              Certainly not talking about Kidistan.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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