Once again, French surrender monkeys saved by brave USians

[giblets]

Burning "heretics"

[Egbert]

I agree however the opposition to the heliocentric model is older than christianity.

Chrisipus called for those who proposed the earth as anything other than the centre of the universe should be condemned. And that was long before Christ.

It seems opposition to the heliocentric universe was more anthropomorphic than religious.

[giblets]

Chrisipus called for those who proposed the earth as anything other than the centre of the universe should be condemned. And that was long before Christ.

That's interesting, where did you read that?

[Sava]

Unless you've gone through the training and combat you have less than zero clue what you're talking about when it comes to soldiering.

Most people freeze and flinch when weapons are being fired or other dire threats to life are at hand. That includes when they are doing the firing.

Give me a combat vet vs a wanna be jihadist any day of the week. ****, I'd take Oerdin over that **** whad.

Others tried to tell you. Not doing anything was more dangerous than doing something.

I'll finish with you have no idea what you are talking about because you simply lack the life experience. You should pause and take that into account once in a while.

put that same jihadist through the same training and I bet he's a lot better soldier than oerdin's fat ass


though obviously we dont want a jihadist

but even terrorists have fitness requirements

[giblets]

yes, if jihadists were trained by the US military they probably would be pretty good at fighting

[Sava]

i just wanted to call oerdin fat

[giblets]

That's not nice. Now that you've fat-shamed and humiliated him he'll surely drown his sorrows in a binge eating spree of pizza and craft beers

[grumbler]

Anyway I came into this thread to apologize to grumbler. You were being dismissive yesterday but I was in a ****ty mood and was unnecessarily dickish, so sorry about that.

I enjoyed our exchange, by and large, and admire you for posting this.

[Bereta_Eder]

what a bunch of "happies"

[grumbler]

I agree however the opposition to the heliocentric model is older than christianity.

Chrisipus called for those who proposed the earth as anything other than the centre of the universe should be condemned. And that was long before Christ.

It seems opposition to the heliocentric universe was more anthropomorphic than religious.

Are you referring to Chrysippus (279 – 206 BCE)? He was an empiricist. He'd go with the evidence. I have never seen anything about him calling for the condemnation of anyone "who proposed the earth as anything other than the centre of the universe." In fact, he thought the universe existed for the benefit of God (he considered all gods to be manifestations of a single god), not man.

I could be convinced otherwise by evidence, of course.

[grumbler]

True. Galileo recanted.

Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake, by the Roman Inquisition.

Bruno was burned at the stake for denying the universality of the Catholic Church (and thus the Pope's authority), not for his arguments about heliocentrism per se.

[Sava]

surely drown his sorrows in a binge eating spree of pizza and craft beers

dont call me shirley

[pchang]

My point was that this idea that unless people try and overpower an armed attacker, that they are 'cowards' is a terrible message for people to put out there. Most of the time it will lead to nothing more than people dying when they could otherwise have survived because they believe they have to try and be a hero. That is what I'm angry about.

That was not the criticism. The criticism was for the train staff who locked themselves into a special compartment and ignored the cries for help from the passengers until they were sure that someone else had subdued the attacker. I did not expect them to confront and disarm the attacker. However, I did expect them to stop the train and do their best to get as many passengers as possible off and away from the train.

[Sava]

oh no

someone lost their composure in a moment of crisis and didn't do "The Heroic Right Thingtm"

lets burn them

[Sava]

and also, pump up ourselves with bluster

add a dash of islamaphobia

cook for 20 mins @350degree (F)