Your gun laws are a mistake: National Rifle Association to Australia

[The Mad Monk]

Yes but their aim is atrocious. It's all the lurching.

[Alexander's Horse]

The problem with gun control at this point is that it's really too late.

This is the real problem America is grappling with - and I really feel for you all on that. No easy answers at all.

[Alexander's Horse]

Americans are the only ones ready for the Zombie Apocalypse.

And my office - I put zombie apocalypse in our crisis contingency plan - just to see if anyone in HQ would notice

[-Jrabbit]

Outstanding!

[pchang]

And my office - I put zombie apocalypse in our crisis contingency plan - just to see if anyone in HQ would notice

When was this? Did anyone notice?

[Alexander's Horse]

Nobody noticed - which says it all really about these plans like OH&S and the Fire Plan that management people have to produce or sign off on. I spend as little time on them as possible.

[pchang]

So, how long has it been?

[Alexander's Horse]

Dunno, last year - once you file these things they are usually forgotten.

[Dinner]

Lying is what the NRA does. It is what they have always done.

[rah]

Nobody noticed - which says it all really about these plans like OH&S and the Fire Plan that management people have to produce or sign off on. I spend as little time on them as possible.

They've used it in the US to raise the visibility of emergency planning. It was actually effective based on what I remember. (the fact that I remembered is something on it's own)

[regexcellent]

The Supreme Court could always step in when somebody challenges a gun control law and say that you can only own guns if you're in a militia, which would then limit (legal) firearm ownership to the country's craziest citizens.

Yes, the supreme court could pull **** out of its ass. That's not actually the meaning of the 2nd amendment. In any case that ship has sailed. The supreme court has upheld the right of citizens to own firearms; circuit courts have upheld the right of citizens to carry them. Concealed carry is (nominally) legal in all 50 states, and more or less unrestricted in 43 states (all but Hawaii, California, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.)

Also, the NRA could just call itself a militia.

[Alexander's Horse]

They've used it in the US to raise the visibility of emergency planning. It was actually effective based on what I remember. (the fact that I remembered is something on it's own)

Ya I'm getting to the stage where remembering is difficult, although I'm having more difficulty with caring....

[Az]

Being pro gun in spite of the overwhelming evidence of the death and misery it causes, must be one of the most stupid and idiotic stances to take ever...

It's almost as bad as still being a smoker after knowing how stupidly bad it is for you - or living somewhere like Texas...

So, basically Slowwhand - unless he's finally seen the light (not the lighter!) and given up fags.

What overwhelming evidence? Gun ownership rates are inversely correlated with murder rates in the US.

[ricketyclik]

State by state in the US, where guns are freely available in any case, but not country by country, where there are more obstacles to obtaining a gun.

[grumbler]

National -> run by US Army. So, yes and no. A State run militia would eliminate that 2nd Amendment loophole.

The US Army doesn't run the National Guard. The National Guards meet every criterion laid down for the "well-regulated militia" that the Second Amendment was designed to protect (see Federalist Papers #28 and #46). Its officers are appointed by the state governments, and answer to them. They are the state-run militias.