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    Your gun laws are a mistake: National Rifle Association to Australia

    July 13, 2015 - 6:28AM

    Nick O'Malley
    US correspondent for Fairfax Media

    In an article entitled Australia: There Will be Blood, the National Rifle Association in the US has launched an attack on Australia's gun laws in the latest edition of its most militant gun rights publication, America's First Freedom.

    The article claims there is a "growing consensus" in Australia that the gun buyback and ban on semi-automatic weapons introduced after the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 had failed to make the nation safer.

    A demonstrator from an anti-gun lobby holds up a banner as NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre speaks at a news conference after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut.
    A demonstrator from an anti-gun lobby holds up a banner as NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre speaks at a news conference after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. Photo: Getty Images
    "The Australian people paid a massive price in liberty. Their reward? At best, an unexamined resolution that things were somehow better now," says the article.

    "For those who became victims, or who simply examined the situation with open eyes, it was rather clear that they were not. Gun rights were, for all practical purposes, gone forever."

    The article warns that US President Barack Obama might support Australian-style gun reforms.

    "This is the gun-control regime that our president applauds for its decisive resolve. It robbed Australians of their right to self-defence and empowered criminals, all without delivering the promised reduction in violent crime," it says.

    "Australia's gun confiscation is indeed a lesson to America: It is a sign of what is to come if we hold our rights lightly."

    Australia's gun laws – particularly those introduced by the Howard government after the Port Arthur massacre – have become a source of fascination in the US and are regularly raised in the ongoing debate over gun violence there.

    The NRA's most recent attack on Australian gun laws appears to have been prompted by Mr Obama's raising of their success in an interview he did with Marc Maron​, a comedian with a popular podcast in the US, after the massacre in South Carolina last month.

    Referring to Australia's response to the Port Arthur massacre, Mr Obama told Mr Maron: "It was just so shocking the entire country said, 'Well, we're going to completely change our gun laws', and they did. And it hasn't happened since."

    Supporters of gun control often cite Australia's laws as evidence that government restrictions on gun ownership can save lives; those opposing gun restrictions raise the laws as an example of Orwellian big-government over-reach.

    As evidence of the consensus that Australia's gun laws have failed, the NRA cites a single article published by the Sydney Morning Herald in 2005.

    That story quotes the director of the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, Don Weatherburn, as saying there was not enough evidence to attribute a fall in crime in the 10 years after the introduction of the gun laws to the new restrictions.

    "There has been a drop in firearm-related crime, particularly in homicide, but it began long before the new laws and has continued on afterwards. I don't think anyone really understands why. A lot of people assume that the tougher laws did it, but I would need more specific, convincing evidence," he said at the time, noting that a reduction in the availability of heroin had led to lower usage and, in turn, a drop in armed robberies.

    Public health research by Professor Simon Chapman has since found that while the rate of gun-related homicide was reducing by 3 per cent a year before the new laws, the pace of the decrease accelerated to 7 per cent a year afterwards.

    The US now has a gun homicide rate 370 times that of Australia's, Mr Chapman writes.
    You can prise our gun control laws out of our warm, living hands NRA

  • #2
    The less diplomatic version: The NRA Reckons Australia’s Anti-Gun Laws Are “A Mistake”; Australia Tells NRA To Go Fu*k Itself

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    • #3
      I deeply care about this topic and will be paying CLOSE attention to this thrade for the next month or so.
      The Wizard of AAHZ

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      • #4
        Sorta similar to my reaction when Australians (or anyone else) complain that our gun laws are not restrictive enough.

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        • #5
          The NRA is known mainly for lies and double talk. It is essential the gun manufacturers lobbying arm.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
            Sorta similar to my reaction when Australians (or anyone else) complain that our gun laws are not restrictive enough.
            Only if you are an idiot and facts don't matter to you.
            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • #7
              California is gifting itself to Mexico.
              I won't be taking advice from you.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                This conversation is really interesting, you guise.
                The Wizard of AAHZ

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                • #9
                  Mobius, I thought you said you were going forever and not coming back for six months. It was only last week that you went away.

                  I guess you just can't stay away from us.

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                  • #10
                    You did say you would be back sooner if Slowwy continued being Texan.

                    I think Slowwy will remain Texan.

                    Perhaps you should stop leaving forever.

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                    • #11
                      Just googled it.

                      It sounds lovely.

                      Castles, cathedrals, beautiful scenery etc etc

                      Enjoy your trip.

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                      • #12
                        our gun laws can be annoying, but they have saved lives, no doubt about it
                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • #13
                          A mass murderer at Port Arthur was the catalyst for greatly increased gun control.

                          Had he not rum amuk I guess our gun controls would not be so strict.

                          Whether my readers regard that as good or bad is another issue.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                            Sorta similar to my reaction when Australians (or anyone else) complain that our gun laws are not restrictive enough.
                            Unfortunately America's love of guns affects us adversely, by increasing the supply of illegal guns. Do our gun control laws affect you adversely?
                            Last edited by ricketyclik; July 13, 2015, 08:23. Reason: Phone's auto spell - replaced "fun" for "gun". Point taken.

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                            • #15
                              The real point I'm trying to make here is the way the NRA lied its arse off about the stats.

                              Don't get me wrong Reg, I get where you're coming from. I used to totally love guns too, when I was 14 and really insecure about my manhood.

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