The Stars and Stripes Should Be Banned

[SlowwHand]

Like I've explained before, I have an upside down American flag as my avatar, because our country that I love, is in serious distress.

So what do you think of someone proudly waving a Nazi flag at an American World War II memorial? It's nothing for anyone to get their panties all twisted up over, is it?

I know you're reasoning and it changes nothing.

[Alexander's Horse]

If I was born in the south, who I believe are the Americans closest in temperament to Australians, I'd be flying the confederate flag at my house today.

[SlowwHand]

Specifically, Australia is similar to Texas.
What we're seeing is a re-creation of the real reason for secession. We don't like federal intervention in all things.

[loinburger]

I don't think the situation is comparable - MrFun may be loath to admit it, but homosexuals today aren't treated nearly as badly as blacks were treated 150 years ago. "We're going to secede over gay marriage" sounds a lot more petulant than "we're going to secede because we like to enslave blacks."

[SlowwHand]

Except that wasn't the true reason.
5% were owners. That wasn't what did it.

[loinburger]

Sure, it was an issue of states' rights (to legalize slavery)

[MrFun]

Except that wasn't the true reason.
5% were owners. That wasn't what did it.

I've read the texts of the declarations of secession. The Confederate founding leaders declared their states were seceding to preserve the natural order between whites and blacks (slavery).

The fact is, is that the historical documents from the time period clearly shows that slavery was the reason the Southern states seceded.

[MrFun]

What then?

My point is that the Nazi flag and the Confederate flag are symbolic of things that are not worth celebrating. There's nothing proud about flying either flag, for different reasons.

[Egbert]

I've read the texts of the declarations of secession.

Was it a gay conspiracy?

[giblets]

Except that wasn't the true reason.
5% were owners. That wasn't what did it.

I don't think the other 95% loved black people.

[MOBIUS]

Specifically, Australia is similar to Texas.

You mean a bunch of racists and sexists?

[ricketyclik]

Unfortunately, yes. At least to the former.

[MrFun]

I don't think the other 95% loved black people.

[Drizzy Drake]

If I was born in the south, who I believe are the Americans closest in temperament to Australians, I'd be flying the confederate flag at my house today.

I believe you.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/confederate-flag-shirt-indigenous-affairs-bureaucrats-shock-move/story-e6frg6nf-1227431245595?nk=42d0ab10f5a57f251bdc41926542fd26-1436314873

[Alexander's Horse]

The thing is state loyalties are huge in Australia. They come first, before the federal thing.

A lot of good old boys died honorably fighting for the Confederacy because their state swung that way. I honor and respect them, and their battle flags. I really get that. I would do the same.

Sloww, I also feel deeply honored you think of Aussies as like Texans - straight back at you man.