Nothing is scarier to white males than collective punishment.

[Kidlicious]

Oy! You are so messed up! Germany and Japan weren't punished due to Allied bigotry, they were punished because of their own bigotry. The whole Master-race thing you know.

They weren't punished for bigotry, nor should they have been. Measures were taken to prevent future military aggression, but we were very merciful with both of them.

We aren't punishing Cuba, North Korea or Iran either. That's a strange view.

[MRT144]

If most of the posters drew what I believed to be an incorrect conclusion about me, then I would naturally conclude that there was something in my behavior that caused this (e.g. "why does everybody think I'm gay?" "Well, you keep posting about having men **** you in the ass" "Ohhhh yeah I can see how you'd draw that conclusion from my post history"); in contrast, it takes an excessive amount of narcissism for somebody to believe as you do - that if people are drawing what you believe to be erroneous conclusions from your posting behavior then they must be entirely at fault for this.

If you encounter a jerk every so often, maybe that person is a jerk. If you are encountering jerks all the time, you're the jerk.

[rah]

I believe it's already been done. A bunch of idiots said that I was. It wasn't everyone, but it was a bunch of idiots.

If it wasn't everyone, you obviously need to try harder.

[Dr Strangelove]

They weren't punished for bigotry, nor should they have been.

Oh, so that's what you're on about. I see. So you're saying the Holocaust never happened? Oh the shame. How can we allow this to happen on our forum?

Measures were taken to prevent future military aggression, but we were very merciful with both of them.

Nuclear sharing.

We aren't punishing Cuba, North Korea or Iran either. That's a strange view.

Oh! Oh! Oh! Poll material! Let's put it to a vote! Let's ask "THE PEOPLE" whether they think that massive embargoes and sanctions potentially stretching over a half century constitute punishment.

[Kidlicious]

Two of those countries are trying to get a nuke. The other almost caused WWIII allowing nukes onto their territory. You want a poll? Whatever convinces you of what you want to believe.

[Berzerker]

Let me spell it out for you and berzerker. If he would have made an argument against collective punishment I wouldn't be calling him a bigot. Because I don't believe in collective punishment. I called him a bigot because he is one. You ****ing idiot!

but you do support collective punishment, you luv drug wars and they are designed to punish people for drugs based on the actions of individual drug users. So, drug user commits rape, drug users get punished. White man commits rape, white men get punished.

[Kidlicious]

but you do support collective punishment, you luv drug wars and they are designed to punish people for drugs based on the actions of individual drug users. So, drug user commits rape, drug users get punished. White man commits rape, white men get punished.

But you aren't black. You aren't against the drug war because of the harm it does to black communities (nevermind that drugs do more harm). You're a white, middle class drug user who wants his drugs to be cheaper. You're even ok with calling innocent men rapists so that you can get cheap drugs. And we aren't talking about white men either. You want black men to be called rapists so that you can get cheap drugs.

[Berzerker]

drugs cause harm, so do drug wars - the latter hasn't stopped the former, so we end up with more harm, not less

and I do oppose the drug war because its been devastating for black neighborhoods

I didn't call men rapists, I explained why your "logic" in support of drug wars applies to everyone else, including men and rapists

you might understand that if you weren't beholden to double standards, another sin from those who support drug wars

[giblets]

People use drugs because they've decided the benefits outweigh the harm. Everything causes harm. Driving a car is dangerous but people still do it.

[Berzerker]

I'm sure Jesus would have vocally identified the hypocrisy of a drug war in the country leading the world in drug production

Yeah, ban pot and flood the world with tobacco, booze and painkillers...

[Kidlicious]

People use drugs because they've decided the benefits outweigh the harm. Everything causes harm. Driving a car is dangerous but people still do it.

There are social costs.

[Berzerker]

But anyway, Kid, the primary reason young black men are such a disproportionate percentage of the prison population is because of the drug war, for "drugs".

[giblets]

There are social costs.

Thank you for your detailed and specific response.

[Berzerker]

There are social costs.

the drug war costs more, consider the difference between the social costs of a wino and the prohibition of booze... We still have the wino but we've created a violent black market

[Dr Strangelove]

Two of those countries are trying to get a nuke. The other almost caused WWIII allowing nukes onto their territory. You want a poll? Whatever convinces you of what you want to believe.

Two out of three experts agree, nuclear sharing doesn't cause WW III's and is totally not a violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty!