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    Is anyone here familiar with it? It has spread like wildfire here at CMU and it strikes me as very fishy. I refuse to use it.

    Here's how it works: You give Venmo your bank information. It can then withdraw from your account and in return gives you a sort of scrip, kind of like Microsoft Points back when they had that for xbox live. You can add friends on Venmo if they have a Venmo account. You can then send them money by transferring scrip from your account to theirs. The notion is that you use this to do things like split a bill at a restaurant or pay them back for gas after a road trip or similar things that I would honestly just use cash for. When it's time to actually get some US dollars back, you use the "cash out" button and it deposits the scrip in your bank account.

    None of my friends seem to realize what this means. You're giving this random startup (admittedly owned by PayPal) an interest-free loan without any bank guarantees at all, no regulation on depositor reserves or anything. It's a substantial financial risk. Plus the opportunity for fraud is tremendous, if you accept a friend request from someone who isn't actually your friend, just a faker, you might end up giving money to a fraudulent stranger.

    Has anyone here used this service? What do you think of it? I know I have a reputation on this site for being anti-regulation. I think probably 99% of government regulations, even (especially?) those concerning banks could and ought to be done away with. But this strikes me as an unexploded land mine if not a ticking time bomb...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      Is anyone here familiar with it? It has spread like wildfire here at CMU and it strikes me as very fishy. I refuse to use it.

      Here's how it works: You give Venmo your bank information. It can then withdraw from your account and in return gives you a sort of scrip, kind of like Microsoft Points back when they had that for xbox live. You can add friends on Venmo if they have a Venmo account. You can then send them money by transferring scrip from your account to theirs. The notion is that you use this to do things like split a bill at a restaurant or pay them back for gas after a road trip or similar things that I would honestly just use cash for. When it's time to actually get some US dollars back, you use the "cash out" button and it deposits the scrip in your bank account.

      None of my friends seem to realize what this means. You're giving this random startup (admittedly owned by PayPal) an interest-free loan without any bank guarantees at all, no regulation on depositor reserves or anything. It's a substantial financial risk. Plus the opportunity for fraud is tremendous, if you accept a friend request from someone who isn't actually your friend, just a faker, you might end up giving money to a fraudulent stranger.

      Has anyone here used this service? What do you think of it? I know I have a reputation on this site for being anti-regulation. I think probably 99% of government regulations, even (especially?) those concerning banks could and ought to be done away with. But this strikes me as an unexploded land mine if not a ticking time bomb...
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      • #4
        I too am against banking regulation. Please PM me all your banking and credit card info. I'm far more trustworthy. After all, I am Canadian.
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        • #5
          So this is PayPal except instead of having real money in your account you have "scrip", and can't directly buy anything with it?

          Genius!

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          • #6
            Here's how it works: You give Venmo your bank information. It can then withdraw from your account
            That's all I had to read. Full stop.
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            • #7
              I think I will keep using traditional banking services, thank you.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                That's all I had to read. Full stop.
                yeah, it sounds like a terrible idea. it has few advantages and lots of potential downsides.
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                • #9
                  Too old. Don't know anything about it.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                    That's all I had to read. Full stop.
                    Yeah, it was at that point when I told my friend that no, if she wanted me to pay her back it would have to be cash or check.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                      So this is PayPal except instead of having real money in your account you have "scrip", and can't directly buy anything with it?

                      Genius!
                      You don't have real money in PayPal either. It's also scrip. You can buy things with it, but it isn't FDIC insured. I'd avoid PayPal for the same reasons to be honest.
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                      • #12
                        paypal is handy for moving money across borders. i have clients in the US and europe and using paypal i can receive money from them easily in brasil (or the UK, which sometimes works out better depending on the exchange rate). without paypal i would have to receive money through bank transfers, which is costly and time consuming, or have them send me a cheque, which would take weeks, or even months.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                          I too am against banking regulation. Please PM me all your banking and credit card info. I'm far more trustworthy. After all, I am Canadian.


                          He was even nice about his request!

                          Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                          So this is PayPal except instead of having real money in your account you have "scrip", and can't directly buy anything with it?

                          Genius!
                          Almost sounds like Paypal trying to get into the Bitcoin business.
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                          • #14
                            If you violate any of Paypal's sometimes obscure terms of service it can just snag all of your money, for instance if you engage in perfectly legal firearms or firearms-related transactions (purchasing parts, magazines, ammunition, etc.) via paypal they will yank everything in your account, which is massively bull****. I don't use paypal for this reason.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Yeah, it was at that point when I told my friend that no, if she wanted me to pay her back it would have to be cash or check.
                              Check??? What are you, 80 years old?
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