Make anti-LGBT businesses publicly post their policy.

[Dr Strangelove]

Aren't most state legislatures currently controlled by the Republicans?

Everyone should be a protected class.

[Kidlicious]

You can stick your freedom to be a bigot up your ass.



Of course you are, you always run away like a little ***** when you're pulled up on your bull****.

Stick your right not to be embarrassed up YOUR ass, bigot! Free people don't have to qualify.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Aren't most state legislatures currently controlled by the Republicans?

Everyone should be a protected class.

Everyone? Everyone that has certain immutable characteristics, sure; but, for instance, businesses should be able to discriminate against previously unruly customers.

[kentonio]

Stick your right not to be embarrassed up YOUR ass, bigot! Free people don't have to qualify.

Enjoy the straight white male privilege while it lasts. Bigots like you will be nothing but an unpleasant footnote in history in a few more years.

[rah]

If only that were true. I fear it will take much longer.

[pchang]

Everyone? Everyone that has certain immutable characteristics, sure; but, for instance, businesses should be able to discriminate against previously unruly customers.

Just like insurers have the right to discriminate against previously ill consumers.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Just like insurers have the right to discriminate against previously ill consumers.

Not anymore .

But you don't think that someone who has been belligerent and violent at a bar should be denied service the next time they walk in?

[N35t0r]

Was he born belligerent and violent?

[The Mad Monk]

Aren't we all?

I mean, have you even looked at toddlers!?

[Kidlicious]

Enjoy the straight white male privilege while it lasts. Bigots like you will be nothing but an unpleasant footnote in history in a few more years.

What are you going to do? Shame me? Embarrass me?

[Kidlicious]

If only that were true. I fear it will take much longer.

It will if you don't step up your demonization and stupid political antics.

[kentonio]

What are you going to do? Shame me? Embarrass me?

Of course not, you think that real people don't ever have to experience shame or embarrassment and only do if they are weak. You being a 'real man (tm)' and all, it would be a pointless endeavour.

[MrFun]

You have yet to raise a single issue that would make things "worse". Though in y our eyes you do seem to think it would be worse for homosexuals to know ahead of time that a business is not going to serve them than for businesses to have to actually be honest in their advertising.

You are ignoring that it already is required in many cases, so you can continue pretend that there are some horrific unintended consequence of requiring businesses to disclose accurate information about the nature of the goods and services they offer.

I am not asking for anything extraordinary here ... simply the same protection for customers in one case as is already afforded in many others.

Good point. Imran, it's not really extraordinary for LGBT people to simply be treated equally and with some level of respect as human beings, and as American citizens, is it?

And also with the other point Aeson made - there are plenty of other laws that require businesses to be honest in their advertising in regard to other areas. How would requiring publicly posting anti-LGBT policy be any different in requiring honesty in advertising?

I don't think "violating freedom of association" is good retort, because as I've pointed out, businesses would be able to continue to not associate with LGBT people.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And also with the other point Aeson made - there are plenty of other laws that require businesses to be honest in their advertising in regard to other areas. How would requiring publicly posting anti-LGBT policy be any different in requiring honesty in advertising?

A ridiculous stretch. Would you mandate businesses posting in all their ads "We deny service to anyone we've kicked out of our bar for violent behavior?" Would it therefore be dishonest for for them to not include that language, but tell people they aren't going to serve them due to a bar fight the last time they were there?

Furthermore, would it be dishonest advertising for businesses to deny, say, the local chapter of the KKK a place to meet even though it doesn't state that racists are not allowed? How long do you want ads to be?

Put to you this way, which may be easier to consider. After Proposition 8 in California, a lot of LGBT advocates wanted to retaliate against people who gave money to Prop8. In fact there were businesses who did as well. Do you believe that businesses are not being honest in their advertising if they do not disclose that they gave money to Prop8? I'm sure there are likely people who want to know what businesses gave money to the proposition and wouldn't want to support them.

edit: And, of course, there are more nuanced objections. A bakery, for instance, may not have a problem with serving LGBT folk, but may have a problem with baking a cake for an LGBT wedding. Do the signs have to get that specific to avoid your charge of false advertising?

[Kidlicious]

Of course not, you think that real people don't ever have to experience shame or embarrassment and only do if they are weak. You being a 'real man (tm)' and all, it would be a pointless endeavour.

The other part of that is that you're an *******. But how does that help gays?