Types of people I wish would die in a fire

[Sava]

Ugh. Don't talk about it. I thought we drove bad, but when I was in Rio, I was amazed that I didn't see an accident every 5 minutes on the commute...

[N35t0r]

pro-tip: USA is a much larger country, geographically, with much more suburban sprawl... leading to longer commute times and distances

Yes. It doesn't invalidate my statement though. The actions taken need to be on a larger/longer timescale only.

[Kidlicious]

With respect to just how bad American drivers are, compared to say UK drivers:

Road fatalities per 100k population

UK: 3.5

USA: 11.6

We have too many teens.

[Sava]

Yes. It doesn't invalidate my statement though. The actions taken need to be on a larger/longer timescale only.

Mass transit is not a priority in America.

also, made somewhat difficult by the fact that areas are a bit more spread out

[Kidlicious]

I'd gather you'd also have to factor in distance driven per person as well, but of course that leads to the obvious question that, if the increased car deaths are due to the increased time spent driving, whay the hell do they not take actions to reduce the total amount driven?

That makes no sense.

[I AM MOBIUS]

Deceptive. Americans drive more in terms of distance. When put into a proper context... fatalities per billion vehicles-km...

UK: 4.3

USA: 7.6

We're still worse... but not by a factor of 3x-4x

Brazil... 55.9

Well spotted

Yes, US drivers are almost twice as bad on purely miles driven - but then those figures don't take into account how the US has 16 times as much distance in roads for only 5 times the population...

So yes, very deceptive.

[Sava]

but then those figures don't take into account how the US has 16 times as much distance in roads for only 5 times the population...

Exactly.

[I AM MOBIUS]

Therefore your roads are three times less crowded than our roads - meaning that your roads should be safer with less objects in them to hit...

Unless that makes you more bored with less to do and turns you into the aforementioned comaed out braindead moron

[I AM MOBIUS]

Also, our country is 7 times more densely populated, with more densely populated urban environments - again the sheer weight of traffic in the UK should contribute to more accidents, not less, than the US.

[N35t0r]

That makes no sense.

It stands to reason that it wouldn't make sense to you. You tend to struggle with logic and common sense.

[I AM MOBIUS]

Basically Americans are appalling drivers compared to those of most European states.

[Sava]

Therefore your roads are three times less crowded than our roads - meaning that your roads should be safer with less objects in them to hit...

Not necessarily. Examine a crowded road during rush hour. It is difficult to wrap your vehicle around a light pole going 100 mph when you are stuck going 5 mph.

Unless that makes you more bored with less to do and turns you into the aforementioned comaed out braindead moron

Road boredom is actually a thing and highway designers try to implement more curves and features as a result.

a short piece of road boredom

http://jalopnik.com/american-drivers-are-literally-literally-dying-of-bor-1635457571

[I AM MOBIUS]

It stands to reason that it wouldn't make sense to you. You tend to struggle with logic and common sense.

Yeah, 'more teens', what a ****ing moron. Like the UK doesn't have a similar proportion of teens to the US?

[I AM MOBIUS]

Not necessarily. Examine a crowded road during rush hour. It is difficult to wrap your vehicle around a light pole going 100 mph when you are stuck going 5 mph.

Road boredom is actually a thing and highway designers try to implement more curves and features as a result.

a short piece of road boredom

http://jalopnik.com/american-drivers...bor-1635457571

I agree, but roads aren't that crowded to be driving 5mph. I was averaging about 80mph along most of the M4 yesterday and that is a boring motorway - the difference is that there are likely more things to hit on my motorway than yours

[N35t0r]

Mass transit is not a priority in America.

also, made somewhat difficult by the fact that areas are a bit more spread out

So encourage not as much spreading out (maybe with cheap mass transit)? :doitnow:

As I said, long term.