Obama Goes Full Commie

[Lorizael]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/01/08/president-proposes-make-community-college-free-responsible-students-2-years

Of course, he waited to make this proposal until after I was done with community college. THANKS OBAMA.

[DaShi]

Well, it says responsible students, so....

[Lorizael]

True. Requiring a 2.5 GPA would have ruled me out for the first 8 years of my college education.

[Bereta_Eder]

People have to PAY for going to Uni there???!!!

Lord deliver us from evil

[I AM MOBIUS]

I know. Barbarism. Our right-wing governments have followed the US example in recent years.

Why are right-wingers anti education?

[ricketyclik]

Because they don't want people figuring out what they're up to.

[kentonio]

If poor people are allowed to learn stuff, they might just start realizing what a ****ty deal they're getting.

[Lorizael]

The evil, money-grubbing, poor-hating right-wingers will be in here soon enough to compare Obama's plan to Nazi Germany, so let's clear up something right away before they do: no matter what, someone is paying for education. Whether it's you directly, the university, or the taxpayers, someone is forking over the money. The pertinent question with regards to education is deciding who should be doing the paying, not whether or not it should be paid for.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

A trillion to pay the students, or a trillion to kill Iraqis - I think the answer is clear, killing Arabs is the obvious priority, unless you are a communist.

[C0ckney]

A trillion to pay the students, or a trillion to kill Iraqis - I think the answer is clear, killing Arabs is the obvious priority, unless you are a communist.

exactly. why spend money on education when you could instead spend money on killing brown people and destroying an entire region.

[Bereta_Eder]

Can't we pay by playing the guitar and singing instead?

Beware! Obama has just adopted the greek system! (I kid you not, it's something similar. Limited positions in unies, the ones with the best grades enter, "free")

So if you bust your balls reading and become a geek, you have good chances entering uni.

Where this system aches is what happens AFTER you've entered. Noone can kick you out. You can be a 60 year old student that simply doesn't pass his exams or doesn't go to class (that changed). (thanks... developments I guess)

Other systems in europe: you enter, "free", if you get the bac. It's a degree in the last year of highschool, that pretty much opens the door to every university BUT, you have to pass all your exams each year and after three strikes you're out.

[I AM MOBIUS]

The evil, money-grubbing, poor-hating right-wingers will be in here soon enough to compare Obama's plan to Nazi Germany, so let's clear up something right away before they do: no matter what, someone is paying for education. Whether it's you directly, the university, or the taxpayers, someone is forking over the money. The pertinent question with regards to education is deciding who should be doing the paying, not whether or not it should be paid for.

The obvious answer to this is that the state should pay. It amazes me that this even needs to be questioned...

No one should be held back from achieving their potential due to an inability to pay for their education.

Currently in the US, and increasingly in the UK, access to further education is essentially an elitist pastime.

[I AM MOBIUS]

exactly. why spend money on education when you could instead spend money on killing brown people and destroying an entire region.

Maybe if the money had been spent on education, everyone would realise that killing brown people and destroying an entire region is actually a bad thing...?

[I AM MOBIUS]

Can't we pay by playing the guitar and singing instead?

Beware! Obama has just adopted the greek system! (I kid you not, it's something similar. Limited positions in unies, the ones with the best grades enter, "free")

So if you bust your balls reading and become a geek, you have good chances entering uni.

Where this system aches is what happens AFTER you've entered. Noone can kick you out. You can be a 60 year old student that simply doesn't pass his exams or doesn't go to class (that changed). (thanks... developments I guess)

Other systems in europe: you enter, "free", if you get the bac. It's a degree in the last year of highschool, that pretty much opens the door to every university BUT, you have to pass all your exams each year and after three strikes you're out.

Sorry, is that the Greek system, or the geek system...?

Also, yet another example why Greece is the basket case of Europe. Obviously free education shouldn't be open to abuse.

[Bereta_Eder]

The rational I think, was that maybe students would need to work while studying to support themselves, so... the system wasn't too strict.
This has never been the case for a long time though. (they don't need to)
The system stayed the old way though, untill that changed recently.

But that's where it stops