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  • Originally posted by dannubis View Post
    Tell me, before they started hunting christians - you know, when they were hunting syrians, where was the outrage then ?
    When you look at all the pictures of those little syrian girls in refugee camps, where were these so-called "Voice of the Martyrs" ?

    It is bad enough to see this hypocritical behaviour from our world leaders that we don't need relief organizations doing the same thing. You are the christian here, you figure out why this is sickening.
    VOM is a Christian movement, it's no surprise they focus on Christians, which by the was number 200 million persecuted world over. That does not mean they don't care for non Christians. As for Syria and VOM, do a google search.

    In any case, you claimed I didn't care for displaced Muslims. That is a lie, and I expect an apology for that.
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    • Originally posted by dannubis View Post
      How very christian of you

      Now, why don't you want to help displaced muslims ?
      Why do you kill puppies?
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      • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
        VOM is a Christian movement, it's no surprise they focus on Christians, which by the was number 200 million persecuted world over. That does not mean they don't care for non Christians. As for Syria and VOM, do a google search.

        In any case, you claimed I didn't care for displaced Muslims. That is a lie, and I expect an apology for that.
        1. No, because they are christian they can't focus on just one group. This is what sets christianity aside from most other religions.
        2. You posted about a relief organization that specifically helps christians (as per your mail). I asked why didn't you want to help muslims. Why would you support the above meontioned organization and not e.g. MSF or the red cross who doesn't make the distinction based on religion? Might I ask that you practise what you preach and NOT put words in my mouth?
        Last edited by dannubis; September 11, 2014, 03:28.
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        • I think you're being a bit unfair. Supposing for the sake of argument that Nikolai is paying more attention to suffering Christians than suffering Muslims, don't we all do something similar? For example, ISIS has butchered thousands of Iraqis and Syrians--but the media pays more attention to the execution of a single foreign journalist, who was there by choice, than they do to a mass grave of hundreds of Shiites. It's easy to snark, "ISIS: Now killing white people, be alarmed," but really it's human nature to feel more concerned about the suffering of a group with whom one feels kinship.
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          • Not us. That's racist.
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            • Originally posted by Elok View Post
              I think you're being a bit unfair. Supposing for the sake of argument that Nikolai is paying more attention to suffering Christians than suffering Muslims, don't we all do something similar? For example, ISIS has butchered thousands of Iraqis and Syrians--but the media pays more attention to the execution of a single foreign journalist, who was there by choice, than they do to a mass grave of hundreds of Shiites. It's easy to snark, "ISIS: Now killing white people, be alarmed," but really it's human nature to feel more concerned about the suffering of a group with whom one feels kinship.
              Actually I think there has been considerable coverage about their other atrocities.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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              • Originally posted by rah View Post
                Actually I think there has been considerable coverage about their other atrocities.
                Interesting enough a lot of the coverage comes from ISIS themselves.
                Their uncensored propaganda videos (which I won´t link here, but which you can find with a brief search at Liveleak ) feature so much murder, cruelty and atrocities, that it is doubtful if, with IS(IS), we still speak about humans, or monsters.
                The fact that they seem to be so proud of these things that they put them into propaganda videos (instead of trying to cover them up, which normal criminals or ciminal regimes would try to do) seems to indicate that we look into the deepest pits of very dark souls
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                • Originally posted by rah View Post
                  Actually I think there has been considerable coverage about their other atrocities.
                  Not proportionate, though. Mind you, it probably gets monotonous after a while, but AFAICT the massacres are ongoing, large-scale and energetic. The ratio of foreign journalist victims to hapless local rug-weaver types is well below 1:1000. Our heads of state do not hold outraged news conferences over each batch of a hundred Shiite goatherds tossed into a long ditch in pieces. Which is totally understandable, but that's my point; in a world with billions of strangers, we tend to pay more attention to those who have something in common with us. I wouldn't say it's necessarily a good thing, just how things are.
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                  • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                    ... The ratio of foreign journalist victims to hapless local rug-weaver types is well below 1:1000. Our heads of state do not hold outraged news conferences over each batch of a hundred Shiite goatherds tossed into a long ditch in pieces. Which is totally understandable, but that's my point; in a world with billions of strangers, we tend to pay more attention to those who have something in common with us. I wouldn't say it's necessarily a good thing, just how things are.

                    Actually it is exremly interesting if we compare it to the last Iraq war.
                    It didn´t take the USA all too long to fabricate casus belli against Iraq and to assemble a coalition of the willing who would fight against Iraq.
                    In contrast to this against ISIS (whose existence surely is caused by a great deal by the last iraq war and against which the atrocities of the Saddam regime pale in comparison) the USA seem to be very very recultant to take any step (so much that it sems like we have to be thankful that finally they decided to do air raids against ISIS positions).

                    Obviously the perceived attempt to kill a presidents daddy is a bigger motivator for war, than a murderous regime that commits one atrocity after the other, doesn´t uphold the geneva conventions and is about to conquer one city after the other.
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                    • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                      Supposing for the sake of argument that Nikolai is paying more attention to suffering Christians than suffering Muslims, don't we all do something similar? For example, ISIS has butchered thousands of Iraqis and Syrians--but the media pays more attention to the execution of a single foreign journalist, who was there by choice, than they do to a mass grave of hundreds of Shiites. It's easy to snark, "ISIS: Now killing white people, be alarmed," but really it's human nature to feel more concerned about the suffering of a group with whom one feels kinship.
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                      • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                        Jesus called upon people to rise above their nature
                        Well unless dannubis wants to tell us when he stopped physically abusing his girlfriend it does seem a bit ridiculous to automatically assume that Nikolai doesn't care about the suffering of Muslims at the hands of ISIS based solely on his contributions to a Christian relief organization.
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                        • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                          Well unless dannubis wants to tell us when he stopped physically abusing his girlfriend it does seem a bit ridiculous to automatically assume that Nikolai doesn't care about the suffering of Muslims at the hands of ISIS based solely on his contributions to a Christian relief organization.
                          Just as with Nikolai, (deliberate) reading comprehension fail. But do continue, hypocritical ****.
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                          • It is interesting that many christian pollytubies seem to have now devolved to ann coulter levels of depravity.

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                            • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                              It is interesting that many christian pollytubies seem to have now devolved to ann coulter levels of depravity.
                              I smelled an easy target. He reacts in an amusing fashion when confronted wih a plain reading of his posts.
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                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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