Hillary Clinton, shw must know... she has no chance.

[rah]

I remember back when people were saying "as long as the repugs put anybody reasonable up, a black man can't beat him"
And we all know how well that worked out.
So I will not claim that as long as the repugs put anybody reasonable up, a b*tch can't beat them'.

[Sava]

You'll have to be a little more specific.

You say Hillary is center-left (absolutely untrue btw). What/whose scale are you using?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oooh, Sava is the type of idiot who thinks that Hillary Clinton is a right winger .

[Sava]

Oooh, Sava is the type of idiot who thinks that Hillary Clinton is a right winger .

Hillary Clinton:
pro-Iraq War
pro-drone program
pro-extra-judicial "renditions"
pro-torture
pro-corporate bailout

She was on the board of directors for Walmart, for chrissakes.


OH YEAH WATCH OUT, SHE'S A REAL LEFTY LOON

Stick to being wrong about sports Imran.

[Imran Siddiqui]

How many right wingers are for universal health care and raising the minimum wage?

Game. Set. Match.

[Lorizael]

Any political scale in which the only two people on the left are Kucinich and Nader is a bad scale.

[Sava]

Game. Set. Match.

It's important that you think you've "won".

[Sava]

Any political scale in which the only two people on the left are Kucinich and Nader is a bad scale.

That's more of a reflection of the American political landscape.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Any political scale in which the only two people on the left are Kucinich and Nader is a bad scale.

Indeed.

Interestingly enough under Sava's test, Rand Paul is a ****ing socialist:

anti-Iraq War
anti-drone program
anti-extra-judicial "renditions"
anti-torture
anti-corporate bailout

Rand Paul, bringing Marxism to you!

[Sava]

Sava's test

You making up things now?

What "test" do I have?

I'm relying on criteria that political scientists use.

You seem to be relying on your own personal definition of left/right.

Between us both, one of us has had papers published. One of us has gone to academic conferences in the field. One of us is qualified to teach undergraduate courses.

hint: It's not you.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Take that Ralph Nader, I'm more commie than yooooou!

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'm relying on criteria that political scientists use.

You seem to be relying on your own personal definition of left/right.

Between us both, one of us has had papers published. One of us has gone to academic conferences in the field. One of us is qualified to teach undergraduate courses.

hint: It's not you.

A quick google search shows it's likely not you as well .

And your "criteria that political scientists use" is stunningly infantile and naive to this degree holder in Political Science.

[Sava]

Take that Ralph Nader, I'm more commie than yooooou!

I'm not sure what you think you are accomplishing. If by that metric you test farther to the left and more towards libertarian than Nader, then that's what you are. You seem to be suffering from label bias. But if you want to make an actual case providing somewhat objective metrics, be my guest.

[Sava]

stunningly infantile

I'm engaging in a level of discussion appropriate for setting. If you want to write a paper proving Hillary's leftism as compared to global standards, go ahead.

I'll wait.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If by that metric you test farther to the left and more towards libertarian than Nader, then that's what you are.

Uh...

I'll just leave this here for everyone to ponder for a bit.

(Esp since I think everyone here has taken the uber silly Political Compass Test)