sounds like hamas is the enemy of the Palestinians.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Yes, so brave to drag kids in front of you and surround yourself with them. So brave to go from house to house firing a rocket trying to get the Israelis to destroy civilian houses and kill people. While I have always known you to be detached from reality Sava, there are limits to what is tolerable. Only complete and total annihilation of Hamas along with all those who support them will bring the fighting to an end once and for all.

LOL how is Israel going to completely wipe out Hamas? I guess they could kill everyone in Gaza.

[C0ckney]

LOL how is Israel going to completely wipe out Hamas?

by following the same wildly successful strategy it has followed since 2006 of course!

[Dr Strangelove]

With a population density of 1000 people / square mile there is no place in Gaza where Hamas fighters wouldn't be surrounded by civilians.

Should we consider the Warsaw uprising in 1944 a war crime of the Polish resistance?

[My Wife Hates CIV]

read today in news... hamas kills the tunnel diggers so that they cant tell anyone where the tunnels are...

is this true... does anyone here live near this area???

that's ****ed up

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Wouldn't tunnel diggers be Hamas too, are they killing themselves?

[The Mad Monk]

No.

Stories From The Battlefield: Hamas Killing Its Children, ISIS Killing Christians
5:36 PM 08/12/2014

By Mordechai Ben-Menachem

My eye was caught yesterday by two powerful headlines; the first:

“Islamic State said to bury women and children alive” – subtitled, “Yazidi people reported killed and 300 women kidnapped and forced into slavery by jihadists”.

This is the Islamic State, that group that used to be called ISIS (or ISIL) doing what they do. By the way, I have seen some media reports that claimed ISIS and ISIL were separate groups; this is not true. Both are weak translations of their real name which is, of course, in Arabic. In any case, their name now is “Islamic State” since they declared a Caliphate. So, they took hundreds of women captive to use as sex slaves, as Islamic armies have done for 1,400 years.

To quote from this article: “Some of the victims, including women and children, were buried alive in scattered mass graves in and around Sinjar,” Sudani said. “In some of the images we have obtained, there are lines of dead Yazidis who have been shot in the head while the Islamic State fighters cheer and wave their weapons over the corpses.”

The second headline was:

“Hamas said to have executed dozens of tunnel diggers” – subtitled, “Any excavator who was suspected of collaborating with Israel was killed, Israeli website reports.” This reason sounds plausible but of course, there was nothing resembling a trial and the alleged collaboration did not occur. This is a great way for the jihadists hidden in those underground bunker-tunnel warrens to retain secrets. This is, of course, after nearly 200 children were also killed while digging and untold numbers were killed simply as tunneling witnesses.

They were forced to dig for some 12 hours a day on wages of about $150 per month.

“Sources in Gaza told … that Hamas took a series of precautions to prevent information from reaching Israel. The terror organization would reportedly blindfold the excavators en route to the sites and back, to prevent them from recognizing the locations. The tunnels were strictly supervised by Hamas members, and civilians were kept far from the sites. … Hamas would strip search the workers to ensure they had no recording devices or cameras hidden on them.” With such “precautions” how could the slaves possibly “collaborate” with Israel?

Slavery, sex-slaves or worker drones, and mass executions are common to both these groups.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/12/stories-from-the-battlefield-hamas-killing-its-children-isis-killing-christians/

[C0ckney]

what a terrible article. here's the conclusion, which tells us all we need to know about how seriously the author should be taken.

There is a more poignant question. Are these “Terror Groups” or “Terror Organisations?” It seems they are not. They are regimented armies, organised as companies, brigades and battalions, with intelligence, propaganda and other units. They are well-trained and superbly motivated.

So, where are the terrorists? Everywhere, and in their ranks include those supporting them; the brigands conducting demonstrations in Paris, London, Lisbon and New York.
.....

The Islamic State, Hamas and Hezbollah are not terrorists. They are a Jihad army – notice use of the singular. They are one, not many. They have one goal and that goal is to convert or kill those in their way in the quest for a Caliphate.

more generally, the 'hamas executes tunnel diggers' story now being repeated as gospel truth by the e-idf, appears to have its origins in a report on the mako website’s army blog, and of which there is (as the times of israel article, to its credit, admits) no independent confirmation. so it's at least unproven, and it wouldn't be surprising at all if it were merely part of the e-idf's dehumanisation campaign against the palestinians.

[DinoDoc]

Wouldn't tunnel diggers be Hamas too, are they killing themselves?

More seriously, how would one get a construction crew to work on another tunnel if you killed the crew that did the last one?

[OneFootInTheGrave]

In a city-jail, it would be a sure fire method to have the population eliminate you as well.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

I figured it had to be false. why would you pay them?

I could see maybe 1 digger being shot... someone who told someone else something and the digs.

[Sava]

the only hamas i like is garlic

maybe red pepper
and jalapeno

[The Mad Monk]

Hummus...and I like roasted red pepper.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

roasted red pepper... yeah that is good

[The Mad Monk]

More from e-idf!

Hamas manipulated and intimidated the media in Gaza. Why was that kept from us?

By Alan Johnson Last updated: August 13th, 2014

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Photo: AFP/Getty

We should normally say if our reports are censored or monitored or if we withhold information, and explain, wherever possible, the rules under which we are operating.- Section 11.4.1 of the BBC Editorial Guidelines on accuracy and impartiality in times of War, Terror and Emergencies

The Foreign Press Association (FPA) issued an astonishing protest yesterday about "blatant, incessant, forceful and unorthodox" intimidation of journalists in the Gaza Strip by Hamas. "In several cases," they complained, "foreign reporters working in Gaza have been harassed, threatened or questioned over stories." The FPA said this amounted to "denying readers and viewers an objective picture from the ground," adding "we are also aware that Hamas is trying to put in place a 'vetting' procedure that would, in effect, allow for the blacklisting of specific journalists. Such a procedure is vehemently opposed by the FPA." The statement raises a lot of questions. Here is one: why have British broadcasters not mentioned any of this to their viewers?

Let's review what we know.

Indian television station NDTV broadcast and posted on its internet site on 5 August a report by Sreenivasan Jain showing rockets fired from a tent next to his hotel. In the accompanying text on NDTV’s website, Jain wrote that it was published "after our team left the Gaza Strip – Hamas has not taken very kindly to any reporting of its rockets being fired. But just as we reported the devastating consequences of Israel’s offensive on Gaza’s civilians, it is equally important to report on how Hamas places those very civilians at risk by firing rockets deep from the heart of civilian zones." In an article published subsequently, Jain wrote of "the fear which hobbles the reporting such material: fear of reprisals from Hamas against us", asking "how long do we self-censor because of the fear of personal safety in return for not telling a story that exposes how those launching rockets are putting so many more lives at risk, while the rocket-makers themselves are at a safe distance?"

More and more examples of intimidation of journalists by Hamas are seeping out of Gaza:

Israeli filmmaker Michael Grynszpan described on Facebook an exchange he had had with a Spanish journalist who had just left Gaza. "We talked about the situation there. He was very friendly. I asked him how come we never see on television channels reporting from Gaza any Hamas people, no gunmen, no rocket launcher, no policemen. We only see civilians on these reports, mostly women and children. He answered me frankly: 'It's very simple, we did see Hamas people there launching rockets, they were close to our hotel, but if ever we dare pointing our camera on them they would simply shoot at us and kill us.'"
An op-ed in The Australian and other sources including The Jerusalem Post noted that after Nine Network reporter Peter Stefanovic tweeted that he had seen rockets fired into Israel from near his hotel, he was threatened by pro-Hamas tweeters and warned: "in WWII spies got shot".
The Wall Street Journal's Nick Casey posted a photo of a Hamas spokesman being interviewed from a room in the hospital along with this tweet: "You have to wonder (with) the shelling how patients at Shifa hospital feel as Hamas uses it as a safe place to see media." After "a flood of online threats", the tweet was deleted.
John Reed of The Financial Times was reportedly threatened after he tweeted about rockets being fired from the same hospital.
Following his departure from Gaza, Italian journalist Gabriele Barbati tweeted on 29 July. "Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris."
French-Palestinian journalist Radjaa Abou Dagga wrote an article for French newspaper Libération, on July 23, detailing how he was "detained and interrogated by members of Hamas's al-Qassam Brigade at a room in Shifa hospital next to the emergency room" and was forced to leave Gaza immediately without his papers. The day after publication, Mr Dagga asked Libération to remove his article from their website.
RT correspondent Harry Fear was told to leave Gaza after he tweeted that Hamas fired rockets into Israel from near his hotel.

Hamas manipulation of the media is not always so crude.

As reported in Times of Israel on 11 July, the Hamas Ministry of Interior in Gaza published a video in Arabic advising on "cautious and effective" social media engagement on Facebook and Twitter during Operation Protective Edge. It contained such directives as "Anyone killed or martyred is to be called a civilian from Gaza or Palestine, before we talk about his status in jihad or his military rank … Don't forget to always add 'innocent civilian' or 'innocent citizen' in your description of those killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza."
Hamas has also actively interfered with bomb sites in order to gain PR advantage. The Washington Post's Sudarsan Raghavan detailed how Hamas staged events and scenes to evoke sympathy. By way of illustration, he was taken to photograph a mosque that had been bombed, and discovered that someone had "prepared" the scene and placed a prayer mat and burnt Quran pages. "The symbolism was obvious, almost too perfect. It was clear that someone had placed them there to attract sympathy for the Palestinian cause. A television crew spotted the pile and filmed it. Mission accomplished."
Hamas ensure reporters are exposed to casualties by insisting that spokesmen could only be interviewed in the courtyard of the Al-Shifa hospital, as described by Ynet News.

The long Hamas record of shutting down news bureaus, arresting reporters and cameramen, confiscating equipment and beating journalists has already been documented by the Committee to Protect Journalists. In the latest conflict Hamas wanted to reduce the reports coming out of Gaza to what Reinhold Niebuhr once called "emotionally potent over-simplifications". Journalists from India, America, Norway, Italy, Spain, Australia, Canada and elsewhere are complaining. Will we now hear from the Brits?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/alanjohnson/100283063/hamas-manipulated-and-intimidated-the-media-in-gaza-why-was-that-kept-from-us/

[N35t0r]

I don't think anyone here has the slightest doubt that Hamas are a bunch of ******* murderers with only their own benefit in mind?