"The average temperature on Mars is the same as the average temperature on Earth."

[Dr Strangelove]

Duh! Big time celebrity anti-vaxxers!

Speaking of which Jenny McCartney got the axe from "The View". I'd like to think that it was due to her opposition to vaccination, though I suspect it was probably due to something else altogether.

[DaShi]

I thought this thread was about climate change.

[Sava]

You're making a false equivalency statement for the reasons I've already covered.

And you're a racist dip**** who doesn't understand obvious sarcasm, apparently.

[Dauphin]

Anyway, the Republicans aren't wrong on the policy, which is actually a legislator's job. Personally I don't give a **** if they deny global warming, since there is not a single piece of policy we could ever implement that will make a dime of difference. So whichever way the Republicans go about preventing us from having cap and trade is fine by me.

How do you feel about laws that ban coastal protection policies from being based on scientific predictions of sea level rises? IN direct contrast to your bold statement, it is an example of a policy that could be used to mitigate climate change impacts.

[Sava]

/curiously awaiting the spin reg will put on this one

[regexcellent]

Considering we don't actually have reasonable predictions for sea level rise, I think that legislation is probably misinformed. Anyway, we don't need to worry about coastal communities. Houses don't last forever anyway. If/when sea level rises, people will naturally move away as property value decreases and that'll be that. And in any case, we're probably talking 50-100 years. Trying to plan "coastal protection" that far in advance is a fool's errand.

It's not a bold statement that we can't do anything about global warming either. Carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere is already phenomenally high and will remain that way for the foreseeable future even if all fossil fuel use ceases forever immediately. And any policy designed to reduce use of fossil fuels will lower the price of the same, encouraging more use by China, India, Africa, etc. where demand is already increasing at a rapid pace. They're not about to stop industrializing for any reason.

[Thoth]

[regexcellent]

Up in Canada you should be looking forward to global warming.

[Dauphin]

Considering we don't actually have reasonable predictions for sea level rise, I think that legislation is probably misinformed. Anyway, we don't need to worry about coastal communities. Houses don't last forever anyway. If/when sea level rises, people will naturally move away as property value decreases and that'll be that. And in any case, we're probably talking 50-100 years. Trying to plan "coastal protection" that far in advance is a fool's errand.
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New Orleans approves of this policy. 2005 was a stellar year.

[regexcellent]

There is no evidence that hurricanes are caused by global warming, or any extreme weather at all for that matter, and in fact I guarantee you that Katrina and the 2005 hurricane season were unrelated to it.

Several papers published in 2005 and 2006 claimed that higher sea surface temperatures caused by global warming would result in stronger hurricanes. The 2007 hurricane season, amusingly, was also blamed on global warming--not because it was strong, but because it was unusually weak. The culprit there was higher wind shear due to increased atmospheric temperatures.

Neither year was all that warm anyway; in fact iirc temperatures dropped very slightly between 2000 and 2010 and sea level didn't rise significantly because in that period the antarctic ice sheet grew at unprecedented speed (this was, hilariously, also blamed on global warming by many scientists).

[Dauphin]

There is no evidence that hurricanes are caused by global warming, or any extreme weather at all for that matter, and in fact I guarantee you that Katrina and the 2005 hurricane season were unrelated to it.

Several papers published in 2005 and 2006 claimed that higher sea surface temperatures caused by global warming would result in stronger hurricanes. The 2007 hurricane season, amusingly, was also blamed on global warming--not because it was strong, but because it was unusually weak. The culprit there was higher wind shear due to increased atmospheric temperatures.

I have not made any claim that hurricanes are related to global warming. My point is about policy short sightedness. Sorry you couldn't see that obvious point.

[Thoth]

Up in Canada you should be looking forward to global warming.

I am.

[Sava]

Up in Canada you should be looking forward to global warming.

not everyone is a psychopath

[regexcellent]

I honestly can't wait for it in Rochester.

[Sava]

That's on you. Why, of all places, Rochester?