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  • "The average temperature on Mars is the same as the average temperature on Earth."

    THE MORE YOU KNOW!

    ‘There are no coal mines on Mars’
    07/10/14 09:09 AM—UPDATED 07/10/14 09:12 AM
    By Steve Benen

    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) recently attended a climate-deniers conference, where he shared an anti-fluoride rant with the event’s attendees. Watching his comments, I thought to myself how this represented another small step backwards for Republicans and science – especially given the fact that Rohrabacher is on the House Science Committee.

    But if this represented a small step backwards for the GOP and science, this is a bigger step in the wrong direction.
    Republican state Sen. Brandon Smith of Kentucky has a new theory on why climate change couldn’t possibly be slowly warming the earth’s temperature, resulting in legions of effects to the environment and its inhabitants.

    The reason, according to alternative paper LEO Weekly, seems to be that since Mars and Earth have identical temperatures, Earth’s climate cannot possibly be the result of human activity.

    “As you sit there in your chair with your data, we sit up here in ours with our data and our constituents and stuff behind us. I don’t want to get into the debate about climate change, but I will simply point out that I think in academia we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that,” said the senator in a video posted by the weekly publication. “Yet there are no coal mines on Mars. There are no factories on Mars that I’m aware of.”
    As Rebecca Leber noted, it’s worth remembering that Brandon Smith just “happens to own a few coal mines.”

    This shouldn’t be necessary, but let’s go ahead and highlight some of the rather important flaws in his truly awful argument against climate science.

    Smith insisted, for example, that “nobody will dispute” the assertion that Mars and Earth have “exactly” the same temperature. In reality, everyone will dispute that – NASA reports that the average temperature on Mars is about -81 degrees Fahrenheit. The average temperature on Earth is 57 degrees Fahrenheit. To see these numbers as “exactly” the same is to believe temperatures have no meaning.

    The Republican state lawmaker also seems to believe the only way for a planet to get warmer is through the presence of coal mines and factories. I’m afraid that doesn’t make sense. Mercury, for example, has daytime temperatures that can reach 800 degrees Fahrenheit. It’s not because of carbon pollution; it’s because it’s the closest planet in our solar system to the Sun.

    Note that Smith also said “in academia, we all agree.” Smith is not in academia.

    And finally, the Kentucky state senator believes those who believe climate science and those who don’t all have “data,” as if there’s comparable evidence for both sides. That’s ridiculously untrue – one side has data; the other side has the belief that the data is an elaborate hoax, fabricated as part of a conspiracy to undermine free enterprise.
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    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

  • #2
    Did they call it a "climate deniers conference"?
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      Why don't they have a minimum education level in science requirement to qualify to be on the House Science Committee?
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        Do you want a serious answer to that question?
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MrFun View Post
          Why don't they have a minimum education level in science requirement to qualify to be on the House Science Committee?
          Why don't we have literacy requirements for voters? Oh wait.
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #6
            The sad thing is, MrFun knows just as much or perhaps less about global warming and climate science as any of these people; the only difference is which self-appointed experts he puts his blind faith in.

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            • #7
              It's not sad because it's not true.

              But it sounds like an awesome* burn. That's what's important.



              *not
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                The sad thing is, MrFun knows just as much or perhaps less about global warming and climate science as any of these people; the only difference is which self-appointed experts he puts his blind faith in.
                Indeed, but the self-appointed experts he puts his blind faith in have the advantage of being right.
                Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                • #9
                  How would you know? Are you a climate scientist?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    I knew there were polytoners who would come to defend idiots like Sen. Brandon Smith. Thanks for the chuckles.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sava View Post
                      How would you know? Are you a climate scientist?
                      No, but I'm an expert at knowing who's right.
                      Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                      "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                        Indeed, but the self-appointed experts he puts his blind faith in have the advantage of being right.
                        Probably not, actually--the "experts" he puts his faith in are not the scientists, more than likely, but "journalists" (in scarequotes because he seems to get all his news from thinkprogress type sites) writing about science they don't know either.

                        Anyway, the Republicans aren't wrong on the policy, which is actually a legislator's job. Personally I don't give a **** if they deny global warming, since there is not a single piece of policy we could ever implement that will make a dime of difference. So whichever way the Republicans go about preventing us from having cap and trade is fine by me.

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                        • #13
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            Man, we're gonna have a fun 21st century.
                            Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                            "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                            • #15
                              just wait until a nuke goes off somewhere
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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