The Impossibility of Growth

[Felch]

Why don't you legalize pot already?

I already made pot legal. There are just a bunch of stubborn old cops and judges who refuse to accept the new reality.

[Fake Boris]

NO FELCH
THEY OCCUPY THE SAME VOLUME
AND IF THE VOLUME GREW 5% A YEAR FOR 500 YEARS JUST THINK OF HOW BIG THE IpOD WOULD GET!

Still failing to understand?

The iPod is small; much more resources are consumed and turned to waste in the process of fabrication.

The waste does take space.

[Sava]

That strategy doesn't work against me, because I'm never wrong. If I claim that 6 is an odd number, or that the sky is green after a lunar eclipse, such insane statements become true because I said them.

It's cool being able to redefine reality with a mere utterance, but I try not to abuse the power.

I'll change "wrong" to something like: "believes in meanings to words different than those the rest of society has agreed upon"

[Bereta_Eder]

The theory goes that from the point exploitation of fossil fuel was discovered the world entered an accellerated on steroids course, tapping into centuries of concentrated energy.
Once this runs out, the whole thing will grind to a halt

(and then felch and mad monk will definitely have the edge)

[Sava]

The waste does take space.

Do you have legitimate evidence to present regarding the amount of "waste" per iPod produced?

You know... to support the thing you just said.

[Fake Boris]

It's hilarious that people who are skeptical about green technologies are just so gung ho about "space exploration"

[The Mad Monk]

The theory goes that from the point exploitation of fossil fuel was discovered the world entered an accellerated on steroids course, tapping into centuries of concentrated energy.
Once this runs out, the whole thing will grind to a halt

Assuming we don't bootstrap into something else.

[Sava]

It's hilarious that people who are skeptical about green technologies

like who?

You can't (well, you can... and do ) say something stupid and then hide behind "green technologies"... as if people are opposed to that instead of your unsupported assertions.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Still failing to understand?

The iPod is small; much more resources are consumed and turned to waste in the process of fabrication.

The waste does take space.

It's not like the electronics of the past were made in a totally environmentally friendly waste-free way.

[Sava]

"Green" technologies take resources too. There's waste. Slapping a color in front of something doesn't change the realities of production.

[Lorizael]

Assuming we don't bootstrap into something else.

Which we almost certainly will. There's plenty of energy out there.

[Fake Boris]

Yes. Used electronics are turning into vast swaths of toxic garbage. This is to be factored in the "cubic meter" heuristical point.

[The Mad Monk]

x-doomsdayfanatic'd

Indeed, you might say we already are.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Yes. Used electronics are turning into vast swaths of toxic garbage. This is to be factored in the "cubic meter" heuristical point.

We're not going to run out of landfill space.

[Fake Boris]

like who?

You can't (well, you can... and do ) say something stupid and then hide behind "green technologies"... as if people are opposed to that instead of your unsupported assertions.

It's obvious.

Right-wingers deny the significance of externalities like pollution. They oppose subsidies to ecological research.

They keep claiming though that we'll just explore space in time for growth.