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    Police have asked a blogger to remove tweets criticising Ukip policies after receiving a complaint from one of the party's councillors.

    Michael Abberton disclosed on his blog that he was visited by two Cambridgeshire police officers on Saturday. He was told he had not committed any crimes, but was asked to delete some of his tweets, particularly a retweet of a faked poster giving 10 reasons to vote for Ukip, such as scrapping paid maternity leave and raising income tax for the poorest 88% of Britons.

    Abberton, a Green party member who writes a blog on science and green politics, described the incident on his Axe of Reason blog."The police explained that I hadn't broken any law – there was no charge to answer and it really wasn't a police matter.

    "They asked me to 'take it down' but I said I couldn't as it had already been retweeted and appropriated, copied, many times and I no longer had any control of it (I had to explain to one of the officers what Twitter was and how it worked). They said that they couldn't force me to take it down anyway."

    The police said they made inquiries "as to whether any offences had been committed under the Representation of the People Act but none were revealed and no further action was taken." The complaint from Ukip was that Abberton was impersonating and misrepresenting the party.

    A Cambridgeshire police spokesman said: "A Ukip councillor came across a tweet which he took exception to. The name of the person on the tweet was identified and that individual was spoken to. We looked at this for offences and there was nothing we could actually identify that required police intervention. Clearly, the councillor was unhappy about the tweets. If every political person was unhappy about what somebody else said about their views, we would have no politics." Abberton had not been told to delete tweets.

    Abberton said the police asked him not to tweet about the visit, but the spokesman said: "I don't know if he'd have been told that. It's certainly not the advice I would have given him. A gentleman has a right to free speech – absolute total right to free speech – we can't tell people what they can and can't say on the internet, as long as it's within the law. We certainly don't go to people's houses and say: 'You can't tweet about this'. This is not 1930s Germany."

    On his blog, Abberton made it clear that the two police officers were extremely professional and polite, but he did wonder why they had visited him.

    "It wasn't until after they left that I questioned why they had visited me in the first place. A complaint had been made but with no legal basis. Not a police matter. So why did they come to my home in the middle of a Saturday afternoon? Also, seeing as my profile doesn't have my location – how did they know my address, or even the town I live in? … Why would a political party, so close to an election, seek to stop people finding out what their policies are or their past voting record? And is it not a matter for concern that a political party would seek to silence dissent and debate in such a manner?"

    Julian Huppert, Lib Dem MP for Cambridge, who was contacted by Abberton, said he was awaiting a detailed response from the police. "It seems astonishing for the police to get involved, there was nothing abusive or threatening in the tweets so I do want to know why they acted, and I want to know why the police told Abberton not to tweet about the visit."

    As for UKIP, Huppert said he was pleased that Ukip's policies were coming under scrutiny.

    Natalie Bennett, leader of the Green party, said: "This police action is both disturbing and surprising. That an apparently general complaint from a political party about not liking what was said about them could have led to a police visit that many would find intimidating is an extremely serious incident that demands immediate investigation. Free speech is a precious right that we must defend."

    Bennett said the party's only member in the House of Lords, Jenny Jones, would write to Theresa May, the home secretary, to ask her to investigate.

    "What a waste of police time, energy and resources," Jones said. "Their job is to investigate crime and catch criminals, not restrict free speech."
    Concerns raised about stifling of political debate after police visit man following complaint from Ukip councillor over policy tweet


    What is happening to Britain? Anti-Islamic xenophobia is running rampant. You have to "opt-in" to be allowed to see the internet uncensored. Random tweets expressing a negative opinion about someone is considered "libel". Now this?

    Everyone is all worried about Russian fascism... but what about British fascism? It appears to be on the rise.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    I heard on the radio yesterday that most TVs will be manufactured with a camera starting next year.

    1984 was thirty years early.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
      I heard on the radio yesterday that most TVs will be manufactured with a camera starting next year.
      Scary. But false.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        "the two police officers were extremely professional ..." er wha?
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #5
          The police in Britain politely ask you to take down offensive messages while informing you that they can't actually do anything about it... scary.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sava View Post

            What is happening to Britain?
            It's very simple- it's a local police force with individual officers acting locally. Not national policy....
            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sava View Post
              What is happening to Britain? Anti-Islamic xenophobia is running rampant.
              Except it isn't.

              Originally posted by Sava View Post
              You have to "opt-in" to be allowed to see the internet uncensored.
              Except you don't.

              Originally posted by Sava View Post
              Random tweets expressing a negative opinion about someone is considered "libel".
              That was actually libel.

              Originally posted by Sava View Post
              Now this?
              Police call round, have a chat, say they can't do anything and **** off again. Should they have been more like US cops and just shot him?

              Everyone is all worried about Russian fascism... but what about British fascism? It appears to be on the rise. [/QUOTE]

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              • #8
                The bit that concerns me most is 'Also, seeing as my profile doesn't have my location – how did they know my address, or even the town I live in?'.

                How exactly do local police have that kind of information?

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                • #9
                  The NSA, duh. Blame America!
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                    Police call round, have a chat, say they can't do anything and **** off again. Should they have been more like US cops and just shot him?
                    The correct answer is to do nothing, because police exist to enforce the law, and the law wasn't relevant here.
                    Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                    "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                    • #11
                      I love the apologists for fascism in this thread. The same twerps that complain about the NSA apparently think it's okay for jack booted thugs to go around moderating twitter.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        Jack booted thugs who have a polite chat, admit they're powerless and then leave? Wow, it's practically nazi Germany!

                        Just to be clear I don't think they should be acting on **** like this either, but lets not go overboard.

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                        • #13
                          I accept your apology.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kentonio View Post



                            Police call round, have a chat, say they can't do anything and **** off again. Should they have been more like US cops and just shot him?

                            Everyone is all worried about Russian fascism... but what about British fascism? It appears to be on the rise.
                            [/QUOTE]

                            1/10
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                              Just to be clear I don't think they should be acting on **** like this either, but lets not go overboard.
                              It's not Nazi Germany, but it's also not a good precedent to set.
                              Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                              "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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