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  • Killdozer - Never forget! Part deux: Italian Style

    Italian police arrested two dozen separatists including a former parliamentarian on Wednesday on suspicion of gathering arms to violently split the wealthy northern region of Veneto from the rest of Italy.


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    Tank warfare in Venice plan gets 24 arrested for plotting secession from Italy



    Published: April 3, 2014 - 5:26AM

    Rome: Italian police arrested two dozen separatists including a former parliamentarian on Wednesday on suspicion of gathering arms to violently split the wealthy northern region of Veneto from the rest of Italy.

    The group had converted a bulldozer into a tank with a makeshift cannon and intended to use it in an assault on St Mark's Square in the region's capital Venice, police said.

    Their plan recalled the 1997 seizure of the square's famed bell tower by armed separatists who proclaimed an independent Venetian republic, harking back to the city-state that was a major power in the eastern Mediterranean for centuries until it fell to Napoleon Bonaparte in 1797.

    That assault was quashed in a matter of hours.

    After searching premises in several regions of Italy, police arrested 24 people on suspicion of terrorism, subversion of the democratic order and making and possessing weapons of war. Twenty-seven others are under investigation, police said.

    Those arrested included Franco Rocchetta, a former lawmaker and campaigner for Venetian independence who helped organise an self-styled "referendum" that caught attention abroad last month because it took place during the Russian annexation of Crimea.

    The "referendum" was an online poll that said 89 percent of respondents voted for Veneto to break away from Italy.

    Wednesday's arrests coincided with a vote in parliament to move to decriminalise clandestine immigration, enraging the Northern League which had backed the law that made it a criminal offence punishable by detention and fines in 2009.

    The Northern League, which has long campaigned for the autonomy of Italy's rich northern regions, said it would rally in the northern city of Verona on Sunday to protest against the arrests and the softening of the immigration law.

    Mr Rocchetta was a founding member of the League, which has 4 percent of the seats in parliament, but has since left it.

    "We call on the Venetians and all those who can no longer bear the intolerable oppression of the central state to fly the flag of St Mark from their homes to show their solidarity with the Venetians and Lombards who have been unjustly imprisoned," Northern League Senate leader Massimo Bitonci said.

    "A state that cancels the crime of clandestine immigration ... can only bring ridicule by imprisoning those ... who are fighting for the freedom of their people," he said.

    Reuters
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  • #2
    Putin is moving Russian troops in because he fears for the ethnic Venetians' safety.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sava View Post
      Putin is moving Russian troops in because he fears for the ethnic Venetians' safety.
      Blah, nothing to that rumor. The true reason Putin will send in the generic troops this time is that Putin feels that the Russian guy he sent to Venice to play the victim is in serious danger.
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      • #4
        Hell yeah
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        • #5
          no turret = not a tank
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          • #6

            Strv 103

            turretless main battle tank

            Sweden
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #7
              The group had converted a bulldozer into a tank with a makeshift cannon and intended to use it in an assault on St Mark's Square in the region's capital Venice, police said.

              I wonder how these idiots planned to get their bulldozer to St. Mark's Square, by sea or by air?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sava View Post

                Strv 103

                turretless main battle tank

                Sweden
                **** you beat me to it

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                • #9
                  Swedes can call it what they want. Not a tank.
                  “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

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                  • #10
                    Everyone else calls it a tank too.

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                    • #11
                      It's an assault gun.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                        It's an assault gun.
                        No, this is an assault gun.



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                        Also an assault gun:



                        Even though they both have turrets. It depends on whether you define it based on roles or outward appearance.

                        The Strv 103 was designed to fight Soviet tanks in northern Sweden. The lack of a turret allows for a low profile, which means has less area to cover with armor, is harder to hit, and is easier to entrench behind earthworks.

                        It sort of strains the definition of tank though, we can call it a gray area.

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                        • #13
                          I don't see that "tank" being any use to anyone especially when the vast majority of the people don't care about their cause and would have just laughed at them while the Italian security forces arrest them after a short symbolic stand.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by onodera View Post
                            The group had converted a bulldozer into a tank with a makeshift cannon and intended to use it in an assault on St Mark's Square in the region's capital Venice, police said.

                            I wonder how these idiots planned to get their bulldozer to St. Mark's Square, by sea or by air?
                            I don't think they thought that far ahead.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                              It's an assault gun.

                              Tank destroyer is the lingo I learned sometime ago. Not sure if the military call them that.
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