Rape victim ordered to pay child support

[Sava]

I also remember the Kid feces eating incident. So that's two verified sources. Can you Google and find proof against this? Didn't think so.

[Kidlicious]

I see a problem with a milf seducing a 15 year boy. Whether he should be responsible I think is debatable. Legally, I don't think so and think it's silly. In reality, I would guess the kid knew what he was doing and was thrilled to go along with it. But I don't have all the information to make a definitive determination of that.

There's some gray area here, despite a lot of people talking in absolutes here. It's not that straightforward.

I'm actually interested in the discussion.

No one is claiming he wasn't into it. I think the question is was it possible for him to say no.

[pchang]

What's the difference between a pathological liar and a delusional schizophrenic?

[Kidlicious]

Another case that you fabricated, you mean?

There is one case where you ate your own feces. It doesn't matter if it's true or not.

I'm not the pathological liar you make me out to be.

[Kidlicious]

I think it's outrageous to hold a 15 year old accountable for being seduced by a grown woman. We were all 15 once. Are you all serious?

[rah]

Also, you are saying a 15 year boy should be responsible for having sex with a milf that seduces him. Do you see the problem with that?

I see a problem with a milf seducing a 15 year boy. Whether he should be responsible I think is debatable. Legally, I don't think so and think it's silly. In reality, I would guess the kid knew what he was doing and was thrilled to go along with it. But I don't have all the information to make a definitive determination of that.

There's some gray area here, despite a lot of people talking in absolutes here. It's not that straightforward.

I'm actually interested in the discussion.

[loinburger]

There is one case where the boy was 12 and ordered to pay child support to the rapist.

Another case that you fabricated, you mean?

There is one case where you ate your own feces. It doesn't matter if it's true or not.

[Kidlicious]

All people do. It's basic human communication. How do I know that child slavery is bad if I can't see the effect it has on actual child slaves?

That's not exactly how it works. The sociopath only knows that others believe child slavery is wrong.

[rah]

Disagree completely. Kids are babied today more than at any point in history. Childhood lasts until the mid-20's... longer for some.

I've seen some evidence that the average age of puberty has gone down... but this probably has more to do with the ocean of chemicals that we live in.

You make a good point. But maybe just between the ages of 18-30. The earlier ages these days, kids are exposed to so much more through the connectivity. So I don't know. As I said, I could be convinced either way. But for guys at 15, I believe they are capable of consent. Girls (since I had a daughter) probably a year more. But again, a judgement call. Each individual is different so the standard should probably be kept a little lower for safety.

[Kidlicious]

Please tell me where I spoke for my brother? I didn't say whether I agreed with him. I just pointed out Ben's normal MO.

The actual age is up for discussion. 12 is too young for either. But today's kids are more advanced then previous generations (I can't believe I just gave credit to more recent generations)
15 is borderline for me. I could be convinced that it's old enough.

Yeah, and having sex earlier does not equal advanced ability to make good choices.
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There is one case where the boy was 12 and ordered to pay child support to the rapist.

You know, I just realized that you earlier said that a 19 year old man is not as good of a parent as a 34 year old sex offender on welfare. Also, you are saying a 15 year boy should be responsible for having sex with a milf that seduces him. Do you see the problem with that?

[Sava]

Sociopaths perceive injustices by reading others.

All people do. It's basic human communication. How do I know that child slavery is bad if I can't see the effect it has on actual child slaves?

[Sava]

But today's kids are more advanced then previous generations

Disagree completely. Kids are babied today more than at any point in history. Childhood lasts until the mid-20's... longer for some.

I've seen some evidence that the average age of puberty has gone down... but this probably has more to do with the ocean of chemicals that we live in.

[Kidlicious]

Indeed. But nevertheless, I know the difference between right and wrong. I just mostly choose to ignore it.

oh, and you also don't see me on any soap box complaining about any perceived injustices

Sociopaths perceive injustices by reading others.

[rah]

Please tell me where I spoke for my brother? I didn't say whether I agreed with him. I just pointed out Ben's normal MO.

The actual age is up for discussion. 12 is too young for either. But today's kids are more advanced then previous generations (I can't believe I just gave credit to more recent generations)
15 is borderline for me. I could be convinced that it's old enough.

[Sava]

We all know you're a sociopath by your habitual trolling.

Indeed. But nevertheless, I know the difference between right and wrong. I just mostly choose to ignore it.

oh, and you also don't see me on any soap box complaining about any perceived injustices