Rape victim ordered to pay child support

[Ming]

I did my research. Minors can not give consent. Consent is not the reason. A woman took sperm out of a condom and impregnated herself with it and the man was order to pay child support.

Feel free to disagree with the actual REAL PEOPLE prosecutors... In the REAL CASE on the subject.
They STATED that consent was the reason. Does your type of research involve actual reading?
Unlike you, I'm not making up what people got quoted on. Feel free to re-read the story I posted. And feel free to look at other sources on the real story.
They all provide the exact quotes from REAL PEOPLE who are REAL LAWYERS involved in a REAL CASE.

[rah]

So why should it make a difference in this case? If the kid is not responsible for the child, then he shouldn't be responsible for child support for someone 20+ years older than him!! Reverse it and you'd agree with the girl having an abortion.

Please post where I said I agree that he should be responsible for child support.

[molly bloom]

[QUOTE=Kidicious;6295592]

There's no evidence that it's a lie. Also, it doesn't matter if it is.

Don't go into news media. Or documentary making.

[molly bloom]

[QUOTE=Kidicious;6295628]

http://www.inquisitr.com/915699/was-...to-his-rapist/

still no evidence that it's fake. Can't find it on google it didn't happen? Pitiful.

Err, the onus is on you to prove it's true, believe it or not.

[molly bloom]

It aint true unless there's pics.

Please, no.

[molly bloom]

Please tell me where I spoke for my brother? I didn't say whether I agreed with him. I just pointed out Ben's normal MO.

The actual age is up for discussion. 12 is too young for either. But today's kids are more advanced then previous generations (I can't believe I just gave credit to more recent generations)
15 is borderline for me. I could be convinced that it's old enough.

Ages of consent vary from country to country- and let's face it, I'm sure we all knew someone in school who was having sex before they were legally able to. Also, in the 19th Century (before things like the Labouchere Amendment in England) men were regularly having sex either with what would now be considered underage girls or teenagers made up to look underage. Oh, and telegraph messenger boys too.

Some people will mature physically and psychologically before others- and no, Sister Bendy, this isn't me giving carte blanche to paedophilia.

[notyoueither]

I said i didn't think it was right for a 15 year old, why would I think it's ok for a 12 year old. I keep saying the difference between criminal and civil is different, but not once have I said that it was OK. Would you please reread my stuff before you keep repeating yourself.

But for guys at 15, I believe they are capable of consent

So yeah, I think he bears some responsibility even if it's real little.

You're hard to pin down.

If he's capable of consent, then why not child support?

The acknowledgement that criminal and civil law differ is not really very useful. Yup, gravity exists... The question is should the law treat the same person given the same facts as both capable of consent and incapable? Is that something we want our legal systems to do? Again, not is, but should. The legal system in CA did this. The point is should it have?

[notyoueither]

I don't really get how someone can be simultaneously capable of consenting to sex with someone of the same age but incapable of consenting to sex with someone ten or twenty years older.

A man and a woman are perfectly capable of consenting to sex with each other, but now make one of them a superior officer in the military, or one of them a prison guard and the other an inmate...

[rah]

this isn't me giving carte blanche to paedophilia.

Does the bible give Sister Bendy that?

[molly bloom]

Reverse it and you'd agree with the girl having an abortion.

I'd agree with you being retrospectively aborted.

[rah]

You're hard to pin down.

There are a few different issues in play here and it's not that straightforward.

The point is should it have?

I believe I've already said no. But to clarify it, NO. I think it was just silly to do that.

And the only reason I kept mentioning the differences between criminal and civil was for their justification, not mine. I see no difference in this example.
I hope that's clear enough.

[molly bloom]

Does the bible give Sister Bendy that?

A rush of blood to the head I think- well it ain't gonna rush anywhere else useful.

[100% Wolf]

A man and a woman are perfectly capable of consenting to sex with each other, but now make one of them a superior officer in the military, or one of them a prison guard and the other an inmate...

Does every adult have that authority over every teenager? I don't think teenagers really respect their elders that much. Of course people's step-parents or teachers shouldn't be allowed to have sex with them.

[notyoueither]

There are a few different issues in play here and it's not that straightforward.

Lay out the issues as you see them.

I believe I've already said no. But to clarify it, NO. I think it was just silly to do that.

And the only reason I kept mentioning the differences between criminal and civil was for their justification, not mine. I see no difference in this example.
I hope that's clear enough.

OK.

[Sava]

I think it's time for an intervention with Kid.

Here he is in 2007:

You have to take into consideration the way women are raised and all the crap that they have learned. Feminism is liberation of the mind. If you listen to it and then you still decide to be a housewife then fine. But you still have to listen to it or you can never be free to make a good choice for yourself. That is the value of feminism.

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/164721-Is-feminism-inherently-negative?p=4866311&viewfull=1#post4866311

We get your divorce sucked. But why has it ruined your brain? Why do you let it?