Facebook kills.

[notyoueither]

No **** the Yanks were going to pull the chain of the Soviets. The Chinese supported the Viet Cong at some level, before invading Vietnam some years later on some pretext.

Point is, that cold war is over almost thirty years ago, except to die hards like you, Serb.

There is zero reason for Russia to not be welcomed by the West and Russians to feel welcome here, other than the behaviour of Russia and Russians since the fall of The Wall.

[Colonâ„¢]

I say the US were there 6 YEARS before the Soviets.

[notyoueither]

The US of America, as Bzejinsky blurt out.
The US was in Afghanistan 6 months BEFORE the Soviets (who were invited there by the legitimate government of the country, btw).

No. actually, it was the Soviets.

And yeah, a client govy 'invited them.' Yeah, sure. Do you normally get the same level of insurgency when the neighbours ask for help after a flood?

[Serb]

No. actually, it was the Soviets.

Great argumentation.
Cya.

And yeah, a client govy 'invited them.' Yeah, sure. Do you normally get the same level of insurgency when the neighbours ask for help after a flood?

Vietnam anyone?

[Serb]

Point is, that cold war is over almost thirty years ago, except to die hards like you, Serb.

Have you read your western press all these years? The Cold war was never over for you, guys.

There is zero reason for Russia to not be welcomed by the West and Russians to feel welcome here, other than the behaviour of Russia and Russians since the fall of The Wall.

Oh, great! So, it's all our fault, right?
We were not the ones who started the Cold war and we are not the ones who continue it after the fall of the Wall.
Wake-up, Neo.

[Serb]

I say the US were there 6 YEARS before the Soviets.

Then you are wrong.
The US started the war in Afghanistan 6 months before the soviet intervention, not 6 years:

According to this 1998 interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, the CIA's intervention in Afghanistan preceded the 1979 Soviet invasion. This decision of the Carter Administration in 1979 to intervene and destabilise Afghanistan is the root cause of Afghanistan's destruction as a nation.


The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan

Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Posted at globalresearch.ca 15 October 2001

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Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded
Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

[Colonâ„¢]

SIXTY YEARS

[Serb]

idiot.

[100% Wolf]

US suspends aid to Syrian rebels

The Obama administration is cutting off aid to rebels in northern Syria amid concerns that it could fall into the hands of Al Qaeda-tied militants.

The White House confirmed Wednesday that the U.S. has suspended delivery of non-lethal assistance to rebels in the north. Britain reportedly has followed suit.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest cited concerns about reports that Islamist fighters seized buildings belonging to Syria's Supreme Military Council.

"We're obviously concerned by those reports," he said.

Earnest said the U.S. government is consulting with the Supreme Military Council, and humanitarian aid will continue. Earnest stressed that the administration's policy is to support "elements of the opposition that are moderate, that are committed to respecting basic human rights."

He said: "That has been a challenge from the very beginning, both to identify the moderate elements of the opposition and to provide them the support that they need."

The confirmation comes after a U.S. Embassy official in Turkey earlier revealed that the U.S. was cutting off such supplies as night vision goggles and communication equipment after ultraconservative opposition factions seized control of bases from the main Western-backed group on Friday.

The decision comes amid growing fighting between rival opposition factions, which have found themselves divided into the moderate, Western-backed Free Syrian Army and Islamic extremist groups. The infighting has diminished international confidence in the rebels and undermined the battle against Assad. It comes just months after the Obama administration threatened military action against the Assad regime over allegations that it used chemical weapons.

On Friday, fighters from the Islamic Front, an umbrella group of six major rebel groups, seized control of FSA bases at the Bab al-Hawa crossing between Syria and Turkey, as well as warehouses belonging to the FSA's Supreme Military Council, some containing non-lethal U.S. aid. The SMC is led by Gen. Salim Idris, a secular-minded Western-backed moderate.

The Islamic Front is a new alliance of some powerful rebel groups that are independent of the FSA and seek to establish an Islamic state in Syria but insist they are not allied with Al Qaeda affiliates like the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant and Jabhat al-Nusra, or Nusra Front.

The U.S. Embassy official added that humanitarian assistance such as blankets and food would not be affected.

A Washington-based U.S. official said the suspension of aid only applies to the opposition in northern Syria, adding that supply lines from Jordan in the south would continue.

The official said members of the Islamic Front are not considered to be terrorists, but not exactly moderate. The U.S. fears that segments of the group have been in contact with Al Qaeda elements and are sympathetic to them, he added.

foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/12/us-suspends-aid-to-syrian-rebels/
Obama is so evil.

[Serb]

You gotta love it!

The decision comes amid growing fighting between rival opposition factions, which have found themselves divided into the moderate, Western-backed Free Syrian Army and Islamic extremist groups...

The SMC is led by Gen. Salim Idris, a secular-minded Western-backed moderate...

A secular-minded Western-backed Free Syrian Army:

[100% Wolf]

Don't be too hard on Obama. Not everyone can be a saint like Assad.

[Serb]

Sure, Obama certainly can't.

[dannubis]

So Serb, have you beaten up any gays recently ?

[Serb]

Sure. I do it on daily basis (as any other Russian) like your media tells you.
Come get some.

[Lorizael]

Serb, thank you for this in depth look at Russian culture. I had no idea the Russian conception of debate was so different from the American one. I admit that your arguments make virtually no sense to me, but I have to assume this is my own cultural bias and your semi-random collection of pictures and declarations are deeply insightful to someone steeped in a Russian mindset.