Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead in apartment

[MikeH]

Sorry he's dead, but very little sympathy for someone who has a wife and 3 kids and sticks heroin in their arms. Dick move.

If it was as simple as that addiction wouldn't be such a big problem.

[kentonio]

Are you ****ING SERIOUS?

The Big Lebowski?! Boogie Nights? Almost Famous? Those are three of my very favorite movies of all time, three of the best movies of the past twenty years.

Never seen Almost Famous but I hated the other two. True story.

[kentonio]

If it was as simple as that addiction wouldn't be such a big problem.

I think heroin deserves a place apart from most addictions. Slipping into alcoholism is something you can see happening if things go terribly wrong in your life. With heroin though there has to be that first time, and given that everyone knows how viciously dangerous it is I don't see how that isn't a conscious choice. Whats the win outcome? If you hate it it was a waste of time, and if you love it you're going to do it repeatedly and it's going to take over your life.

[Guynemer]

Never seen Almost Famous but I hated the other two. True story.

Hardly a surprise, as you are starting to give Oerdin a run for the "_________ is always wrong" title.

[kentonio]

Hardly a surprise, as you are starting to give Oerdin a run for the "_________ is always wrong" title.

How very dare you.

[MikeH]

I think heroin deserves a place apart from most addictions. Slipping into alcoholism is something you can see happening if things go terribly wrong in your life. With heroin though there has to be that first time, and given that everyone knows how viciously dangerous it is I don't see how that isn't a conscious choice. Whats the win outcome? If you hate it it was a waste of time, and if you love it you're going to do it repeatedly and it's going to take over your life.

The arguments of a rational mind. If you've got other things going on, you may not be making rational choices.

And we're terrible as beings in making rational choices about our long term health. We know smoking is incredibly addictive and likely to kill us, but look how many people try smoking. And people do take heroin and not die. So yeah, it's a more extreme example, but I bet you know lots of people who smoke, or who've tried smoking, who are married and have kids. And smoking kills a lot more people than heroin. As does alcohol.

[Sava]

If using a drug for the first time isn't a choice what is?

I don't accept that "choice" is a thing that exists until someone can prove it to me.

[rah]

Actually I find it suspicious that they found him with the needle still in his arm. Seems a bit staged to me.

[MikeH]

You've watched too many movies. The reason people in movies 'stage' murders like that, is because that's what is likely to be found.

[rah]

Found near the body is more likely in my book. But then I'm not a user of the stuff.

[Sava]

Actually I find it suspicious that they found him with the needle still in his arm. Seems a bit staged to me.

I had that thought too.

But I can't imagine why someone would want to do that. Edward Snowden? Yeah. But Phillip Seymour Hoffman?

[rah]

Yeah, but you never know as he grabs the tin foil hat.

[Lorizael]

I had that thought too.

But I can't imagine why someone would want to do that. Edward Snowden? Yeah. But Phillip Seymour Hoffman?

This just in: Edward Snowden implicated in Phillip Seymour Hoffman's murder.

[The Mad Monk]

Actually I find it suspicious that they found him with the needle still in his arm. Seems a bit staged to me.

The theory I heard was it was cut with something toxic enough to kill him as soon as it hit his heart. He didn't remove the needle because he was done in seconds.

[Guynemer]

Oh for Christ's sake.