Especially when that incredibly complex computer is subject to constant motion, shaking and influence of chemical and organic substances being entered into the system. To be frank it's amazing humans aren't even more unpredictable.
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostWhat evidence is there that human actions aren't a product of the chemical reactions happening in their brains? It explains the evidence we observe just as well and requires fewer assumptions.
Humans value self-preservation because natural selection favors organisms that try to survive. No woo is necessary to explain that.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostAny extremely complex machine is going to do things that are unpredictable. Computers, even though they're not nearly as complex as the human brain, already do unpredictable things like suddenly crashing. No one can predict precisely when their computer is going to stop working, yet no one literally believes their computer has a will of its own that transcends the laws of physics. The weather is hard to predict, does it have free will? When we flip a coin we can't predict which side it will land on, do coins have free will?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostThere are humans that feel like committing suicide but choose not to, not because of survival instincts, because they understand that it's good to survive. Animals have no ability to make those types of decisions.
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostI just believe sentient computers would be much more predictable. You are free to disagree.
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostAnimals can't learn how to do Algebra either. There are a lot of things humans do but other animals lack the mental capacity for. Human thoughts are more sophisticated than those of other animals, but that doesn't mean they're not subject to the same laws of physics, chemistry and biology and their actions can't be attributed to these things.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostThen why do humans commit suicide? Is that more sophisticated thinking?
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostThere are humans that feel like committing suicide but choose not to, not because of survival instincts, because they understand that it's good to survive. Animals have no ability to make those types of decisions.
Originally posted by Kidicious View PostThen why do humans commit suicide? Is that more sophisticated thinking?
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostBut you have no apparent reason for believing this other than your belief that free will is a property humans have but machines created by humans can't have. You're making a circular argument.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post"I just believe" means I'm not making an argument. It's just a bad prediction to say sentient computers will be as unpredictable as humans.
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On the contrary, if sentient computers are at all like us they will likely be very predictable: they will inevitably go hopelessly psychotic from lack of stimulation. Giving them superhuman intelligence will only accelerate the problem.
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostTheir desire to escape whatever is oppressing them overrides their natural desire to continue living. Other animals lack the cognitive capacity to consider deliberately destroying themselves as a solution to their troubles.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostHow does that help the human species continue?
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostComputers already do unpredictable things that their creators don't intend for them to do. I'd say it's reasonable to think they will continue to become more unpredictable as computers become more complex and it becomes harder to take all of the consequences of various design decisions into account. Unpredictability, of course, is a terrible reason to allege something has free will. Our ability to predict the outcome of a coin toss is a lot worse than our ability to predict how other people will react in various circumstances.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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