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  • #61
    Originally posted by Felch View Post
    Inspiration and effort. Imagine a ship wreck survivor. His first wealth would come from building a shelter and starting a fire. More wealth would come from making a fishing pole or net, and more wealth would come from those wealth creating tools when he starts harvesting fish from the sea. The ship wreck survivor is unlikely to engage in philosophy or adopt socialism, because these things do not create wealth.
    The shipwreck survivor is more likely to engage in art and philosophy, because there's no incentive for him to accumulate wealth.
    In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Felch View Post
      Inspiration and effort. Imagine a ship wreck survivor. His first wealth would come from building a shelter and starting a fire. More wealth would come from making a fishing pole or net, and more wealth would come from those wealth creating tools when he starts harvesting fish from the sea. The ship wreck survivor is unlikely to engage in philosophy or adopt socialism, because these things do not create wealth.
      The shipwreck survivor is more likely to engage in art and philosophy, because there's no incentive for him to accumulate wealth.
      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
        The shipwreck survivor is more likely to engage in art and philosophy, because there's no incentive for him to accumulate wealth.
        Clearly he's going to lend money to himself at exorbitant rates of interest, while waiting for his artistic or literary skills to develop.
        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
          The shipwreck survivor is more likely to engage in art and philosophy, because there's no incentive for him to accumulate wealth.
          You think he doesn't want to eat? Food is wealth.
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • #65
            A guy who's got lots of art and philosophy is _less_ likely to do art and philosophy than a guy whose art and philosophy supplies are low. Or something like that.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Felch View Post
              You think he doesn't want to eat? Food is wealth.
              But then he wouldn't eat, because he'd be destroying wealth
              Indifference is Bliss

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              • #67
                Plus he doesn't get to show off his wealth in an act of conspicuous consumption. Bah-dum-cymbal crash.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Felch View Post
                  You think he doesn't want to eat? Food is wealth.
                  There is no bid for the food, thus we cannot determine it's value. He shouldn't even waste his time eating it.

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                  • #69
                    So, if he decides, on his own, what's the value of the food he manages to acquire, is it communism because he is the government setting prices, or is it capitalism because he's the market setting prices?
                    Indifference is Bliss

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
                      So, if he decides, on his own, what's the value of the food he manages to acquire, is it communism because he is the government setting prices, or is it capitalism because he's the market setting prices?
                      His life would have been saved by a price fixing, command economy ... better dead than red!

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