Should the Republican Party Bow Out of 2016?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben the reason people might blame Cruz is that it was coverage of the debacle Obamacare is thus far that helped Cuccinelli close the gap as much as he did. People feel (and I am among them) that if the shutdown had not been in place to strangle the coverage as it did, Cuccinelli would have had the time to seal the deal in VA. Strategy matters as I told you back then.

Yeah and the fact that the RNC spent nothing on Cucinelli matters far more. Do you ever get tired of backstabbing conservatives? Cucinelli did better than Romney in VA, btw.

Seriously. The party did everything you wanted. They nominated the 'sane solid candidate'. They backstabbed all the conservatives along the way, and what did they get? They lost the presidency and lost ground in the Senate.

When is it going to every stop being the fault of the conservatives, and when is it going to start being the fault of the RINOs?

Next election loss. Chris Christie loses big. Democrats win. Republicans shocked when they lose for the third straight time nominating moderates.

[DinoDoc]

Umm, again - do you blame Palin for the loss in 2008? Blaming Cruz for McAuliffe winning is ridiculous. For one - McAuliffe outspent Cucinelli by 15x to one. Do you think maybe that might shift opinions slightly in his favor?

Ben the reason people might blame Cruz is that it was coverage of the debacle Obamacare is thus far that helped Cuccinelli close the gap as much as he did. People feel (and I am among them) that if the shutdown had not been in place to strangle the coverage as it did, Cuccinelli would have had the time to seal the deal in VA. Strategy matters as I told you back then.

[Ben Kenobi]

And some Americans are Republicans.

[Guynemer]

Disdain for Congress crossed party lines in the latest survey: Only 27 percent of Republicans, 25 percent of Democrats and a mere 17 percent of independents said their own member of Congress deserves reelection.

And yet, 90% of those *******s will be reelected next year, because Americans are stupid, horrible, scared little pussies.

[kentonio]

Poll Finds Anger At Congress Hasn't Died Away Since Shutdown Ended

Anger runs even higher against the rest of Congress, as only 7 percent of respondents said most members of Congress deserve reelection and 73 percent said they don't.

In an earlier HuffPost/YouGov poll -- conducted Oct. 9-10, during the government shutdown -- 25 percent said their own member of Congress deserved reelection, while 11 percent said they think most members of Congress deserve reelection.

Disdain for Congress crossed party lines in the latest survey: Only 27 percent of Republicans, 25 percent of Democrats and a mere 17 percent of independents said their own member of Congress deserves reelection.

Americans who identified their representative as a Republican said that lawmaker did not deserve reelection by a 56 percent to 29 percent margin. Those who identified their representative as a Democrat agreed by a 49 percent to 29 percent margin.

Notably, 27 percent weren't sure whether their representative was a Republican or a Democrat, and another 6 percent said they believed they were represented by "something else."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4228573.html

[Dr Strangelove]

[QUOTE=Hauldren Collider;6270845]This. Ted Cruz will probably be blamed for the Republicans losing the VA governorship (whether this is valid or not is irrelevant), since the shutdown was when McAuliffe pulled ahead in the polls.

QUOTE]Not really. What I'm hearing around here are people blaming the Tea Party candidate for stealing votes from Cuccinelli. They feel that McAuliffe's victory was illegitimate because Cuccinelli would have won if there hadn't been a third candidate.

[Ben Kenobi]

There is no possible way Ted Cruz can win though. He may be popular in TX, but Republicans in other states are not pleased with him.

I actually agree with Imran. You have to be eligible to run for president. Cruz ain't eligible.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ted Cruz will probably be blamed for the Republicans losing the VA governorship (whether this is valid or not is irrelevant), since the shutdown was when McAuliffe pulled ahead in the polls.

Just like Sarah Palin was blamed for McCain losing. Then Romney lost as well because of Sarah Palin.

Even Republicans who don't think the shutdown was inherently unreasonable (such as myself) mostly agree that it was an extremely stupid idea.

Umm, again - do you blame Palin for the loss in 2008? Blaming Cruz for McAuliffe winning is ridiculous. For one - McAuliffe outspent Cucinelli by 15x to one. Do you think maybe that might shift opinions slightly in his favor?

Also - where was the RNC? They didn't help Cucinelli at all. Isn't the point of a Republican National Committee to, I dunno, help fund republicans so that they can win elections? Why didn't they throw any money Cucinelli's way? What's Priebus' actually getting paid to do besides sit on his ass?

[kentonio]

He was very unpopular with a very small percentage of people. That's all it takes to get a recall. And as DD points out, he subsequently won with a greater margin than his original victory. Wisconsin loves him.

900,000 people in a state with only 5,726,398 total population is not 'a very small percentage'.

[dannubis]

For ****s and giggles no.

I'd rather have the GOP move back to the reasonable side of things so the biggest economy on the planet can be led again rather than blocked.

[MrFun]

For shits and giggles, I would like to see a 2016 Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin ticket.

[DaShi]

I also hope Scott Walker gets the nomination.

[Hauldren Collider]

He was very unpopular with a very small percentage of people. That's all it takes to get a recall. And as DD points out, he subsequently won with a greater margin than his original victory. Wisconsin loves him.

[DinoDoc]

Yeah, they're really going to pick a candidate who was so popular that he caused a recall.

And won with a greater percentage of the vote than he was elected with.

[kentonio]

Yeah, they're really going to pick a candidate who was so popular that he caused a recall.